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From: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] workqueue: Unbind workers before sending them to exit()
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 12:13:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xhsmhczb634mq.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221005010832.1934-1-hdanton@sina.com>

On 05/10/22 09:08, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On 4 Oct 2022 16:05:21 +0100 Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
>> It has been reported that isolated CPUs can suffer from interference due to
>> per-CPU kworkers waking up just to die.
>>
>> A surge of workqueue activity during initial setup of a latency-sensitive
>> application (refresh_vm_stats() being one of the culprits) can cause extra
>> per-CPU kworkers to be spawned. Then, said latency-sensitive task can be
>> running merrily on an isolated CPU only to be interrupted sometime later by
>> a kworker marked for death (cf. IDLE_WORKER_TIMEOUT, 5 minutes after last
>> kworker activity).
>>
> Is tick stopped on the isolated CPU? If tick can hit it then it can accept
> more than exiting kworker.

From what I've seen in the scenarios where that happens, yes. The
pool->idle_timer gets queued from an isolated CPU and ends up on a
housekeeping CPU (cf. get_target_base()).


> Another option is exclude isolated CPUs from
> active CPUs because workqueue has other works to do than isolating CPUs.
>

With nohz_full on the cmdline, wq_unbound_cpumask already excludes isolated
CPU, but that doesn't apply to per-CPU kworkers. Or did you mean some other
mechanism?

>> Prevent this by affining kworkers to the wq_unbound_cpumask (which doesn't
>> contain isolated CPUs, cf. HK_TYPE_WQ) before waking them up after marking
>> them with WORKER_DIE.
>>



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-05 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20221004150521.822266-1-vschneid@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <20221004150521.822266-5-vschneid@redhat.com>
2022-10-05  1:08   ` Hillf Danton
2022-10-05 11:13     ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2022-10-05 14:50       ` Hillf Danton
2022-10-05 16:14         ` Valentin Schneider
2022-10-06  2:07           ` Hillf Danton

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