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From: Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 13/19] kasan: x86: Handle int3 for inline KASAN reports
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 10:49:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xeedvhlav5rwra4pirinqcgqynth2zrixv7aknlsh2rz7lkppq@kubknviwhpfp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250909084029.GI4067720@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 2025-09-09 at 10:40:29 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 10:34:25AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 10:24:22AM +0200, Maciej Wieczor-Retman wrote:
>> > On 2025-09-08 at 22:19:05 +0200, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
>> > >On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 3:09 PM Maciej Wieczor-Retman
>> > ><maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >>I recall there were some corner cases where this code path got called in outline
>> > >> >>mode, didn't have a mismatch but still died due to the die() below. But I'll
>> > >> >>recheck and either apply what you wrote above or get add a better explanation
>> > >> >>to the patch message.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Okay, so the int3_selftest_ip() is causing a problem in outline mode.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I tried disabling kasan with kasan_disable_current() but thinking of it now it
>> > >> >won't work because int3 handler will still be called and die() will happen.
>> > >>
>> > >> Sorry, I meant to write that kasan_disable_current() works together with
>> > >> if(!kasan_report()). Because without checking kasan_report()' return
>> > >> value, if kasan is disabled through kasan_disable_current() it will have no
>> > >> effect in both inline mode, and if int3 is called in outline mode - the
>> > >> kasan_inline_handler will lead to die().
>> > >
>> > >So do I understand correctly, that we have no way to distinguish
>> > >whether the int3 was inserted by the KASAN instrumentation or natively
>> > >called (like in int3_selftest_ip())?
>> > >
>> > >If so, I think that we need to fix/change the compiler first so that
>> > >we can distinguish these cases. And only then introduce
>> > >kasan_inline_handler(). (Without kasan_inline_handler(), the outline
>> > >instrumentation would then just work, right?)
>> > >
>> > >If we can distinguish them, then we should only call
>> > >kasan_inline_handler() for the KASAN-inserted int3's. This is what we
>> > >do on arm64 (via brk and KASAN_BRK_IMM). And then int3_selftest_ip()
>> > >should not be affected.
>> > 
>> > Looking at it again I suppose LLVM does pass a number along metadata to the
>> > int3. I didn't notice because no other function checks anything in the x86 int3
>> > handler, compared to how it's done on arm64 with brk.
>> > 
>> > So right, thanks, after fixing it up it shouldn't affect the int3_selftest_ip().
>> 
>> Seriously guys, stop using int3 for this. UBSAN uses UD1, why the heck
>> would KASAN not do the same?
>
>Specifically, look at arch/x86/kernel/traps.h:decode_bug(), UBSan uses
>UD1 /0, I would suggest KASAN to use UD1 /1.

Okay, that sounds great, I'll change it in this patchset and write the LLVM
patch later.

-- 
Kind regards
Maciej Wieczór-Retman


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-09  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-25 20:24 [PATCH v5 00/19] kasan: x86: arm64: KASAN tag-based mode for x86 Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 01/19] kasan: sw_tags: Use arithmetic shift for shadow computation Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-26 19:35   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-27  6:26     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 02/19] kasan: sw_tags: Support tag widths less than 8 bits Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 03/19] kasan: Fix inline mode for x86 tag-based mode Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:17   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 04/19] x86: Add arch specific kasan functions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:17   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08  9:06     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-18 15:52   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-09-19 11:05     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 05/19] kasan: arm64: x86: Make special tags arch specific Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:18   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 10:12     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 06/19] x86: Reset tag for virtual to physical address conversions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 07/19] mm: x86: Untag addresses in EXECMEM_ROX related pointer arithmetic Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-28  9:50   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-28 16:22     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 08/19] x86: Physical address comparisons in fill_p*d/pte Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 09/19] x86: KASAN raw shadow memory PTE init Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 10/19] x86: LAM compatible non-canonical definition Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:59   ` Samuel Holland
2025-08-27  6:32     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 21:36   ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-26  8:08     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-27  0:46       ` Samuel Holland
2025-08-27  6:08         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 11/19] x86: LAM initialization Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 22:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-08  8:30     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 12/19] x86: Minimal SLAB alignment Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:18   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 13/19] kasan: x86: Handle int3 for inline KASAN reports Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:19   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 10:38     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 12:54       ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 13:08         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 20:19           ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-09  8:24             ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09  8:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-09  8:40                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-09  8:49                   ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman [this message]
2025-09-09  9:03                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-10  8:23                       ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09  8:53               ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09 14:46                 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 14/19] arm64: Unify software tag-based KASAN inline recovery path Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-26 19:35   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 15/19] kasan: x86: Apply multishot to the inline report handler Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:19   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 13:02     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 20:19       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-09  8:42         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09 14:45           ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-09 14:46             ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 16/19] kasan: x86: Logical bit shift for kasan_mem_to_shadow Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 17/19] mm: Unpoison pcpu chunks with base address tag Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-13  8:29   ` Baoquan He
2025-09-15  6:29     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 18/19] mm: Unpoison vms[area] addresses with a common tag Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:19   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 13:11     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 20:19       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-09  8:26         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 19/19] x86: Make software tag-based kasan available Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:19   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 14:11     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman

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