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From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v2 00/16] mm: Introduce arch_mmap_hint()
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 11:45:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x2y7rewvmri25wj72qaeuunqqsqj7pqcliahoxkprcbfxg5owv@icvnojkhrdch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9675c409-b495-46a5-a90c-c952892b4121@lucifer.local>

* Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> [241213 10:16]:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 10:06:55AM -0500, Kalesh Singh wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 4:00 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
> > <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:

...

> >
> > On the technical side, Liam is right that the copy-pasted arch code
> > has inconsistencies (missing checks, order of checks, ...). I agree
> > there’s room for further consolidation. I’ll take another stab at it
> > and resend it as an RFC with an updated cover letter, as Lorenzo and
> > others suggested.

Thanks.  Can you please include what platforms you have tested in your
cover letter (and level of testing - booting, running something, etc).

If you have not tested them, then it might be worth it to have it as an
RFC to point this out - at least initially.  Some of these are very
difficult to set up for testing, but it is also possible that you did
that and the maintainers/people who usually test these things will
assume it's fine if you don't spell out what's going on.

> 
> The most useful thing here as well to help us understand would be to write
> more in the cover letter to expand on what it is you ultimately what to
> achieve here - it seems like an extension on the existing THP work on a
> per-arch basis (I may be wrong)? So adding more detail would be super
> useful here! :)
> 
> We do hope to avoid arch hooks if at all possible explicitly for the reason
> that they can be applied at unfortunate times in terms of locking/whether
> the objects in question are fully/partially instantiated, VMA visibility
> etc. etc. based on having had issues in these areas before.
> 
> Also if a hook means 'anything' can happen at a certain point, it means we
> can't make any assumptions about what has/hasn't and have to account for
> anything which seriously complicates things.
> 
> Ideally we'd find a means to achieve the same thing while also exposing us
> as little as possible to what may be mutated.


Yes, I'm not sure of what your plans are, but I would like to see all of
these custom functions removed, if at all possible.

Thanks,
Liam


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-13 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-11 23:27 Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 01/16] mm: Introduce generic_mmap_hint() Kalesh Singh
2024-12-12 20:08   ` Yang Shi
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 02/16] mm: x86: Introduce arch_mmap_hint() Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 03/16] mm: arm: " Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 04/16] mm: alpha: " Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 05/16] mm: arc: Use generic_mmap_hint() Kalesh Singh
2024-12-12 21:13   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 06/16] mm: csky: Introduce arch_mmap_hint() Kalesh Singh
2024-12-12 21:40   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-12-13  1:39     ` Andrew Morton
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 07/16] mm: loongarch: " Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 08/16] mm: mips: Introduce arch_align_mmap_hint() Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 09/16] mm: parisc: " Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 10/16] mm: s390: Use generic_mmap_hint() Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 11/16] mm: sh: Introduce arch_mmap_hint() Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 12/16] mm: sparc32: " Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 13/16] mm: sparc64: " Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 14/16] mm: xtensa: " Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 15/16] mm: powerpc: " Kalesh Singh
2024-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 16/16] mm: Respect mmap hint before THP alignment if allocation is possible Kalesh Singh
2024-12-12 20:11   ` Yang Shi
2024-12-12 21:02 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v2 00/16] mm: Introduce arch_mmap_hint() Liam R. Howlett
2024-12-12 22:51   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-12-13  1:36     ` Andrew Morton
2024-12-13  8:59       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-12-13 15:06         ` Kalesh Singh
2024-12-13 15:16           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-12-13 16:45             ` Liam R. Howlett [this message]
2024-12-13 17:08               ` Kalesh Singh
2024-12-12 22:01 ` Matthew Wilcox

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