From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
paulmck@kernel.org, Jan Engelhardt <ej@inai.de>,
Sudarsan Mahendran <sudarsanm@google.com>,
cl@gentwo.org, harry.yoo@oracle.com, howlett@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
maple-tree@lists.infradead.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
rientjes@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev
Subject: Re: Benchmarking [PATCH v5 00/14] SLUB percpu sheaves
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 11:29:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <vhp6cqq6gx5xgs2ueo7az4wobs2rddjsucjwlxckx3us3p3pey@s62u2ruxkjw7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMvx9GKgIWtrkZ_R@milan>
* Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com> [250918 07:50]:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 04:59:41PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 9:14 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:19 PM Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:09:18AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 8:22 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/15/25 14:13, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 09:51:25AM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Saturday 2025-09-13 02:09, Sudarsan Mahendran wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >Summary of the results:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In any case, thanks a lot for the results!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >- Significant change (meaning >10% difference
> > > > > > >> > between base and experiment) on will-it-scale
> > > > > > >> > tests in AMD.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >Summary of AMD will-it-scale test changes:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >Number of runs : 15
> > > > > > >> >Direction : + is good
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> If STDDEV grows more than mean, there is more jitter,
> > > > > > >> which is not "good".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is true. On the other hand, the mean grew way more in absolute
> > > > > > > terms than did STDDEV. So might this be a reasonable tradeoff?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also I'd point out that MIN of TEST is better than MAX of BASE, which means
> > > > > > there's always an improvement for this config. So jitter here means it's
> > > > > > changing between better and more better :) and not between worse and (more)
> > > > > > better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The annoying part of course is that for other configs it's consistently the
> > > > > > opposite.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Vlastimil,
> > > > > I ran my mmap stress test that runs 20000 cycles of mmapping 50 VMAs,
> > > > > faulting them in then unmapping and timing only mmap and munmap calls.
> > > > > This is not a realistic scenario but works well for A/B comparison.
> > > > >
> > > > > The numbers are below with sheaves showing a clear improvement:
> > > > >
> > > > > Baseline
> > > > > avg stdev
> > > > > mmap 2.621073 0.2525161631
> > > > > munmap 2.292965 0.008831973052
> > > > > total 4.914038 0.2572620923
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheaves
> > > > > avg stdev avg_diff stdev_diff
> > > > > mmap 1.561220667 0.07748897037 -40.44% -69.31%
> > > > > munmap 2.042071 0.03603083448 -10.94% 307.96%
> > > > > total 3.603291667 0.113209047 -26.67% -55.99%
> > > > >
> > > > Could you run your test with dropping below patch?
> > >
> > > Sure, will try later today and report.
> >
> > Sheaves with [04/23] patch reverted:
> >
> > avg avg_diff
> > mmap 2.143948 -18.20%
> > munmap 2.343707 2.21%
> > total 4.487655 -8.68%
> >
> With offloading over sheaves the mmap/munmap is faster, i assume it is
> because of same objects are reused from the sheaves after reclaim. Whereas we,
> kvfree_rcu() just free them.
Sorry, I am having trouble following where you think the speed up is
coming from.
Can you clarify what you mean by offloading and reclaim in this context?
Thanks,
Liam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-18 15:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-23 13:34 Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] slab: add opt-in caching layer of " Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-18 10:09 ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-26 8:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-19 4:19 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 8:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-13 14:35 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-09-13 20:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-14 2:22 ` Hillf Danton
2025-09-14 20:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-15 0:11 ` Hillf Danton
2025-09-15 7:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 16:39 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-07-24 14:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 17:36 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] slab: sheaf prefilling for guaranteed allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] slab: determine barn status racily outside of lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] tools: Add testing support for changes to rcu and slab for sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 16:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 9:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-27 0:19 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] tools: Add sheaves support to testing infrastructure Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 16:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 9:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] maple_tree: use percpu sheaves for maple_node_cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] mm, vma: use percpu sheaves for vm_area_struct cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] mm, slub: skip percpu sheaves for remote object freeing Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-25 5:22 ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-26 10:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] mm, slab: allow NUMA restricted allocations to use percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 19:58 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-25 6:52 ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-26 10:49 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] testing/radix-tree/maple: Increase readers and reduce delay for faster machines Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] maple_tree: Sheaf conversion Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 20:18 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 14:22 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-27 2:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-28 14:27 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] maple_tree: Add single node allocation support to maple state Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 20:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 15:10 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-27 2:03 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] maple_tree: Convert forking to use the sheaf interface Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 20:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-15 22:53 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] SLUB percpu sheaves Sudarsan Mahendran
2025-08-16 8:05 ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-16 17:35 ` Sudarsan Mahendran
2025-08-16 18:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-16 18:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-17 4:28 ` Sudarsan Mahendran
2025-09-13 0:09 ` Benchmarking " Sudarsan Mahendran
2025-09-15 7:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2025-09-15 12:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-15 15:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-16 17:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-17 5:19 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-09-17 16:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-17 23:59 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-18 11:50 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-09-18 15:29 ` Liam R. Howlett [this message]
2025-09-19 15:07 ` Uladzislau Rezki
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