From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Lei Liu <liulei.rjpt@vivo.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] mm: swap: Gather swap entries and batch async release
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:12:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <uwqrobr5xqtvav73srbe6v2nccgtoy2456vpgzemwex26lwsq7@2g74vl5oomfx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b74b1e28-8479-4b14-9210-5b4334d3ce22@vivo.com>
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 10:14:04PM +0800, Lei Liu wrote:
>
> On 2025/9/10 3:48, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:21 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 02:53:39PM +0800, Lei Liu wrote:
> > > > 1. Problem Scenario
> > > > On systems with ZRAM and swap enabled, simultaneous process exits create
> > > > contention. The primary bottleneck occurs during swap entry release
> > > > operations, causing exiting processes to monopolize CPU resources. This
> > > > leads to scheduling delays for high-priority processes.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Android Use Case
> > > > During camera launch, LMKD terminates background processes to free memory.
> > > How does LMKD trigger the kills? SIGKILL or cgroup.kill?
> > SIGKILL
> >
> > > > Exiting processes compete for CPU cycles, delaying the camera preview
> > > > thread and causing visible stuttering - directly impacting user
> > > > experience.
> > > Since the exit/kill is due to low memory situation, punting the memory
> > > freeing to a low priority async mechanism will help in improving user
> > > experience. Most probably the application (camera preview here) will get
> > > into global reclaim and will compete for CPU with the async memory
> > > freeing.
> > >
> > > What we really need is faster memory freeing and we should explore all
> > > possible ways. As others suggested fix/improve the bottleneck in the
> > > memory freeing path. In addition I think we should explore parallelizing
> > > this as well.
> > >
> > > On Android, I suppose most of the memory is associated with single or
> > > small set of processes and parallelizing memory freeing would be
> > > challenging. BTW is LMKD using process_mrelease() to release the killed
> > > process memory?
> > Yes, LMKD has a reaper thread which wakes up and calls
> > process_mrelease() after the main LMKD thread issued SIGKILL.
>
> Hi Suren
>
> our current issue is that after lmkd kills a process,|exit_mm|takes
> considerable time. The interface you provided might help quickly free
> memory, potentially allowing us to release some memory from processes before
> lmkd kills them. This could be a good idea.
>
> We will take your suggestion into consideration.
But LMKD already does the process_mrelease(). Is that not happening on
your setup?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-10 20:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-09 6:53 Lei Liu
2025-09-09 6:53 ` [PATCH v0 1/2] mm: swap: Gather swap entries and batch async release core Lei Liu
2025-09-10 1:39 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-10 3:12 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-09 6:53 ` [PATCH v0 2/2] mm: swap: Forced swap entries release under memory pressure Lei Liu
2025-09-10 5:36 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-09 7:30 ` [PATCH v0 0/2] mm: swap: Gather swap entries and batch async release Kairui Song
2025-09-09 9:24 ` Barry Song
2025-09-09 16:15 ` Chris Li
2025-09-09 18:01 ` Chris Li
2025-09-10 14:07 ` Lei Liu
2025-10-14 20:42 ` Barry Song
2025-09-09 15:38 ` Chris Li
2025-09-10 14:01 ` Lei Liu
2025-09-09 19:21 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-09 19:48 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 14:14 ` Lei Liu
2025-09-10 14:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 16:05 ` Chris Li
2025-09-10 20:12 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-09-11 3:04 ` Lei Liu
2025-09-10 15:40 ` Chris Li
2025-09-10 20:10 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-10 20:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 22:10 ` T.J. Mercier
2025-09-10 22:33 ` Shakeel Butt
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