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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	 Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] zsmalloc: make common caches global
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 12:28:56 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uodv6dukliy7bnfprh4yoxjkrn77uqljarlg5pmlippxsxygzv@gthjss7yyrlf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cevxzukpt4363kdlb5ofre5tquuvm6jyphstp6nlxjxqibj4wx@2yg4xwlcxwg5>

On (26/01/21 23:58), Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 12:41:39PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > On (26/01/19 13:44), Nhat Pham wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 9:53 PM Sergey Senozhatsky
> > > <senozhatsky@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On (26/01/16 13:48), Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > > > > Currently, zsmalloc creates kmem_cache of handles and zspages
> > > > > for each pool, which may be suboptimal from the memory usage
> > > > > point of view (extra internal fragmentation per pool).  Systems
> > > > > that create multiple zsmalloc pools may benefit from shared
> > > > > common zsmalloc caches.
> > > >
> > > > This is step 1.
> > > >
> > > > Step 2 is to look into possibility of sharing zsmalloc pools.
> > > > E.g. if there are N zram devices in the system, do we really need
> > > > N zsmalloc pools?  Can we just share a single pool between them?
> > > 
> > > Ditto for zswap (although here, we almost always only have a single zswap pool).
> > 
> > COMPLETELY UNTESTED (current linux-next doesn't boot for me, hitting
> > an "Oops: stack guard page: 0000" early during boot).
> > 
> > So I'm thinking of something like below.  Basically have a Kconfig
> > option to turn zsmalloc into a singleton pool mode, transparently
> > for zsmalloc users.
> 
> Why do we need a config option? Is the main concern with a single pool
> lock contention? If yes, we can probably measure it by spawning many
> zram devices and stressing them at the same time.

That's a good question.  I haven't thought about just converting
zsmalloc to a singleton pool by default.  I don't think I'm
concerned with lock contention, the thing is we should have the
same upper boundary contention wise (there are only num_online_cpus()
tasks that can concurrently access any zsmalloc pool, be it a singleton
or not).  I certainly will try to measure once I have linux-next booting
again.

What was the reason why you allocated many zsmalloc pool in zswap?


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-22  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-16  4:48 Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-16  5:52 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-19 21:44   ` Nhat Pham
2026-01-21  3:41     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-21 23:58       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-22  3:28         ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2026-01-22  3:39           ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-22  3:55             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-16 20:49 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-17  2:24   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-21  1:30     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-21  1:56       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-19 21:43 ` Nhat Pham
2026-01-20  1:19   ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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