From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>,
Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 13:53:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <uhla5o5xqshcrihc5gpkqqyoplj7hxrbptp6prmwd2mh3ikw4m@m6apbkyfny6c> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9433c2d6-200c-4320-80f3-840ca5e66f64@redhat.com>
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 03:05:30PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 21.05.25 19:39, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 05:49:15PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > [...]
> > > >
> > > > Please let's first get consensus on this before starting the work.
> > >
> > > With respect Shakeel, I'll work on whatever I want, whenever I want.
> >
> > I fail to understand why you would respond like that.
>
> Relax guys ... :) Really nothing to be fighting about.
Agreed.
[...]
>
>
> To summarize my current view:
>
> 1) ebpf: most people are are not a fan of that, and I agree, at least
> for this purpose. If we were talking about making better *placement*
> decisions using epbf, it would be a different story.
From placement decisions, do you mean placement between memory
tiers/nodes or something else?
>
> 2) prctl(): the unloved child, and I can understand why. Maybe now is
> the right time to stop adding new MM things that feel weird in there.
> Maybe we should already have done that with the KSM toggle (guess who
> was involved in that ;) ).
At the moment systemd is the user I know of and I think it would very
easy to migrate it to whatever new thing we decide here.
>
> 3) process_madvise(): I think it's an interesting extension, but
> probably we should just have something that applies to the whole
> address space naturally. At least my take for now.
>
> 4) new syscall: worth exploring how it would look. I'm especially
> interested in flag options (e.g., SET_DEFAULT_EXEC) and how we could
> make them only apply to selected controls.
Were there any previous discussion on SET_DEFAULT_EXEC? First time I am
hearing about it.
Overall I agree with your assessment and thus I was requesting to at
least discuss the new syscall option as well.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-22 20:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-19 20:52 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: madvise: refactor madvise_populate() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 10:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 10:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 10:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 12:32 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_SKIP_ERRORS process_madvise() flag Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_NO_ERROR_ON_UNMAPPED " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_SET_FORK_EXEC_DEFAULT " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 8:38 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-05-20 10:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 11:41 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-05-20 13:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:11 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 16:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 22:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-29 14:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 21:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour Jann Horn
2025-05-20 5:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:04 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 16:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 15:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 17:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:24 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-20 19:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 19:42 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-20 20:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 18:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-20 18:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 19:49 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-20 20:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 22:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 4:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 16:28 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 16:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 17:39 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-22 13:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 20:53 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-05-26 12:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 16:57 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 17:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 18:25 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 18:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 18:45 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 17:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-21 18:11 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 12:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 15:32 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-22 15:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 2:16 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-22 12:12 ` Mike Rapoport
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