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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] expand mmap_prepare functionality, port more users
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 15:27:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tyoifr2ym3pzx4nwqhdwap57us3msusbsmql7do4pim5ku7qtm@wjyvh5bs633s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1757329751.git.lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>

Hi Lorenzo!

On Mon 08-09-25 12:10:31, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> Since commit c84bf6dd2b83 ("mm: introduce new .mmap_prepare() file
> callback"), The f_op->mmap hook has been deprecated in favour of
> f_op->mmap_prepare.
> 
> This was introduced in order to make it possible for us to eventually
> eliminate the f_op->mmap hook which is highly problematic as it allows
> drivers and filesystems raw access to a VMA which is not yet correctly
> initialised.
> 
> This hook also introduces complexity for the memory mapping operation, as
> we must correctly unwind what we do should an error arises.
> 
> Overall this interface being so open has caused significant problems for
> us, including security issues, it is important for us to simply eliminate
> this as a source of problems.
> 
> Therefore this series continues what was established by extending the
> functionality further to permit more drivers and filesystems to use
> mmap_prepare.
> 
> After updating some areas that can simply use mmap_prepare as-is, and
> performing some housekeeping, we then introduce two new hooks:
> 
> f_op->mmap_complete - this is invoked at the point of the VMA having been
> correctly inserted, though with the VMA write lock still held. mmap_prepare
> must also be specified.
> 
> This expands the use of mmap_prepare to those callers which need to
> prepopulate mappings, as well as any which does genuinely require access to
> the VMA.
> 
> It's simple - we will let the caller access the VMA, but only once it's
> established. At this point unwinding issues is simple - we just unmap the
> VMA.
> 
> The VMA is also then correctly initialised at this stage so there can be no
> issues arising from a not-fully initialised VMA at this point.
> 
> The other newly added hook is:
> 
> f_op->mmap_abort - this is only valid in conjunction with mmap_prepare and
> mmap_complete. This is called should an error arise between mmap_prepare
> and mmap_complete (not as a result of mmap_prepare but rather some other
> part of the mapping logic).
> 
> This is required in case mmap_prepare wishes to establish state or locks
> which need to be cleaned up on completion. If we did not provide this, then
> this could not be permitted as this cleanup would otherwise not occur
> should the mapping fail between the two calls.

So seeing these new hooks makes me wonder: Shouldn't rather implement
mmap(2) in a way more similar to how other f_op hooks behave like ->read or
->write? I.e., a hook called at rather high level - something like from
vm_mmap_pgoff() or similar similar level - which would just call library
functions from MM for the stuff it needs to do. Filesystems would just do
their checks and call the generic mmap function with the vm_ops they want
to use, more complex users could then fill in the VMA before releasing
mmap_lock or do cleanup in case of failure... This would seem like a more
understandable API than several hooks with rules when what gets called.

								Honza

> 
> We then add split remap_pfn_range*() functions which allow for PFN remap (a
> typical mapping prepopulation operation) split between a prepare/complete
> step, as well as io_mremap_pfn_range_prepare, complete for a similar
> purpose.
> 
> From there we update various mm-adjacent logic to use this functionality as
> a first set of changes, as well as resctl and cramfs filesystems to round
> off the non-stacked filesystem instances.
> 
> 
> REVIEWER NOTE:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> I considered putting the complete, abort callbacks in vm_ops, however this
> won't work because then we would be unable to adjust helpers like
> generic_file_mmap_prepare() (which provides vm_ops) to provide the correct
> complete, abort callbacks.
> 
> Conceptually it also makes more sense to have these in f_op as they are
> one-off operations performed at mmap time to establish the VMA, rather than
> a property of the VMA itself.
> 
> Lorenzo Stoakes (16):
>   mm/shmem: update shmem to use mmap_prepare
>   device/dax: update devdax to use mmap_prepare
>   mm: add vma_desc_size(), vma_desc_pages() helpers
>   relay: update relay to use mmap_prepare
>   mm/vma: rename mmap internal functions to avoid confusion
>   mm: introduce the f_op->mmap_complete, mmap_abort hooks
>   doc: update porting, vfs documentation for mmap_[complete, abort]
>   mm: add remap_pfn_range_prepare(), remap_pfn_range_complete()
>   mm: introduce io_remap_pfn_range_prepare, complete
>   mm/hugetlb: update hugetlbfs to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete
>   mm: update mem char driver to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete
>   mm: update resctl to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete, mmap_abort
>   mm: update cramfs to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete
>   fs/proc: add proc_mmap_[prepare, complete] hooks for procfs
>   fs/proc: update vmcore to use .proc_mmap_[prepare, complete]
>   kcov: update kcov to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete
> 
>  Documentation/filesystems/porting.rst |   9 ++
>  Documentation/filesystems/vfs.rst     |  35 +++++++
>  arch/csky/include/asm/pgtable.h       |   5 +
>  arch/mips/alchemy/common/setup.c      |  28 +++++-
>  arch/mips/include/asm/pgtable.h       |  10 ++
>  arch/s390/kernel/crash_dump.c         |   6 +-
>  arch/sparc/include/asm/pgtable_32.h   |  29 +++++-
>  arch/sparc/include/asm/pgtable_64.h   |  29 +++++-
>  drivers/char/mem.c                    |  80 ++++++++-------
>  drivers/dax/device.c                  |  32 +++---
>  fs/cramfs/inode.c                     | 134 ++++++++++++++++++--------
>  fs/hugetlbfs/inode.c                  |  86 +++++++++--------
>  fs/ntfs3/file.c                       |   2 +-
>  fs/proc/inode.c                       |  13 ++-
>  fs/proc/vmcore.c                      |  53 +++++++---
>  fs/resctrl/pseudo_lock.c              |  56 ++++++++---
>  include/linux/fs.h                    |   4 +
>  include/linux/mm.h                    |  53 +++++++++-
>  include/linux/mm_types.h              |   5 +
>  include/linux/proc_fs.h               |   5 +
>  include/linux/shmem_fs.h              |   3 +-
>  include/linux/vmalloc.h               |  10 +-
>  kernel/kcov.c                         |  40 +++++---
>  kernel/relay.c                        |  32 +++---
>  mm/memory.c                           | 128 +++++++++++++++---------
>  mm/secretmem.c                        |   2 +-
>  mm/shmem.c                            |  49 +++++++---
>  mm/util.c                             |  18 +++-
>  mm/vma.c                              |  96 +++++++++++++++---
>  mm/vmalloc.c                          |  16 ++-
>  tools/testing/vma/vma_internal.h      |  31 +++++-
>  31 files changed, 810 insertions(+), 289 deletions(-)
> 
> --
> 2.51.0
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-08 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-08 11:10 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm/shmem: update shmem to use mmap_prepare Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 14:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:28     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  3:19   ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-09  9:08     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 02/16] device/dax: update devdax " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:28     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:31       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 03/16] mm: add vma_desc_size(), vma_desc_pages() helpers Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 12:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:12     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 14:09         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 14:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 14:47             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:07               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:35                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 17:30                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:21                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:16               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 15:24                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:33                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 15:46                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:50                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:56                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 17:36                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 20:24                             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:33                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 04/16] relay: update relay to use mmap_prepare Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:15   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:29     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  4:09   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-09  9:00     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 05/16] mm/vma: rename mmap internal functions to avoid confusion Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:31     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 17:38       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:04         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 06/16] mm: introduce the f_op->mmap_complete, mmap_abort hooks Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 12:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:19     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:27   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:13     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  9:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:37         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09 16:43           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-09 17:36             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09 16:44   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 07/16] doc: update porting, vfs documentation for mmap_[complete, abort] Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 23:17   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-09  9:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 08/16] mm: add remap_pfn_range_prepare(), remap_pfn_range_complete() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 14:18         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 16:03           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 16:07             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 09/16] mm: introduce io_remap_pfn_range_prepare, complete Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 10/16] mm/hugetlb: update hugetlbfs to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 14:19         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 11/16] mm: update mem char driver " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 12/16] mm: update resctl to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete, mmap_abort Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:24   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:40     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 14:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  3:26   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-09  9:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 13/16] mm: update cramfs to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:44     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  9:41   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-09  9:51     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 14/16] fs/proc: add proc_mmap_[prepare, complete] hooks for procfs Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 15/16] fs/proc: update vmcore to use .proc_mmap_[prepare, complete] Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 16/16] kcov: update kcov to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:47     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:27 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2025-09-08 14:48   ` [PATCH 00/16] expand mmap_prepare functionality, port more users Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 15:15       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  8:31 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-09  8:59   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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