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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	 roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,  harry.yoo@oracle.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	 npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	baohua@kernel.org,  lance.yang@linux.dev,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: thp: reparent the split queue during memcg offline
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 15:15:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tyl5nag4exta7mmxejhzd5xduulfy5pjzde4mpklscqoygkaso@zdyadmle3wjj> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BF7CAAA2-E42B-4D90-8E35-C5936596D4EB@nvidia.com>

On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 03:49:52PM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2025, at 15:35, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> 
> > On 25.09.25 08:11, Qi Zheng wrote:
> >> Hi David,
> >
> > Hi :)
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >>>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
> >>>> @@ -1346,6 +1346,7 @@ struct deferred_split {
> >>>>        spinlock_t split_queue_lock;
> >>>>        struct list_head split_queue;
> >>>>        unsigned long split_queue_len;
> >>>> +    bool is_dying;
> >>>
> >>> It's a bit weird to query whether the "struct deferred_split" is dying.
> >>> Shouldn't this be a memcg property? (and in particular, not exist for
> >>
> >> There is indeed a CSS_DYING flag. But we must modify 'is_dying' under
> >> the protection of the split_queue_lock, otherwise the folio may be added
> >> back to the deferred_split of child memcg.
> >
> > Is there no way to reuse the existing mechanisms, and find a way to have the shrinker / queue locking sync against that?
> >
> > There is also the offline_css() function where we clear CSS_ONLINE. But it happens after calling ss->css_offline(css);
> 
> I see CSS_DYING will be set by kill_css() before offline_css() is called.
> Probably the code can check CSS_DYING instead.
> 
> >
> > Being able to query "is the memcg going offline" and having a way to sync against that would be probably cleanest.
> 
> So basically, something like:
> 1. at folio_split_queue_lock*() time, get folio’s memcg or
>    its parent memcg until there is no CSS_DYING set or CSS_ONLINE is set.
> 2. return the associated deferred_split_queue.
> 

Yes, css_is_dying() can be used but please note that there is a rcu
grace period between setting CSS_DYING and clearing CSS_ONLINE (i.e.
reparenting deferred split queue) and during that period the deferred
split THPs of the dying memcg will be hidden from shrinkers (which
might be fine).


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-25 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-23  9:16 [PATCH v2 0/4] reparent the THP split queue Qi Zheng
2025-09-23  9:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: thp: replace folio_memcg() with folio_memcg_charged() Qi Zheng
2025-09-24  9:10   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-23  9:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: thp: introduce folio_split_queue_lock and its variants Qi Zheng
2025-09-23  9:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm: thp: use folio_batch to handle THP splitting in deferred_split_scan() Qi Zheng
2025-09-23 15:31   ` Zi Yan
2025-09-24  9:57     ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-24 14:57       ` Zi Yan
2025-09-24 12:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-23  9:16 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: thp: reparent the split queue during memcg offline Qi Zheng
2025-09-23 15:44   ` Zi Yan
2025-09-24  9:58     ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-24  9:23   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-24 10:06     ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-24 12:38   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-25  6:11     ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-25 19:35       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-25 19:49         ` Zi Yan
2025-09-25 22:15           ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-09-25 22:35             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-26  6:57               ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-26 16:36                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-24 13:49   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-24 14:22   ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25  6:29     ` Qi Zheng

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