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From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/memory: ensure fork child sees coherent memory snapshot
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:30:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tvlqhsldouhdocdf3zsgepv4klq4646yuafsls67n6bwntsnb4@ucsrfbweeumv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba208d76-7992-4c70-be8f-49082001f194@suse.cz>

On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 09:33:24AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 6/3/25 20:21, Jann Horn wrote:
> > When fork() encounters possibly-pinned pages, those pages are immediately
> > copied instead of just marking PTEs to make CoW happen later. If the parent
> > is multithreaded, this can cause the child to see memory contents that are
> > inconsistent in multiple ways:
> > 
> > 1. We are copying the contents of a page with a memcpy() while userspace
> >    may be writing to it. This can cause the resulting data in the child to
> >    be inconsistent.
> > 2. After we've copied this page, future writes to other pages may
> >    continue to be visible to the child while future writes to this page are
> >    no longer visible to the child.
> > 
> > This means the child could theoretically see incoherent states where
> > allocator freelists point to objects that are actually in use or stuff like
> > that. A mitigating factor is that, unless userspace already has a deadlock
> > bug, userspace can pretty much only observe such issues when fancy lockless
> > data structures are used (because if another thread was in the middle of
> > mutating data during fork() and the post-fork child tried to take the mutex
> > protecting that data, it might wait forever).
> > 
> > On top of that, this issue is only observable when pages are either
> > DMA-pinned or appear false-positive-DMA-pinned due to a page having >=1024
> > references and the parent process having used DMA-pinning at least once
> > before.
> 
> Seems the changelog seems to be missing the part describing what it's doing
> to fix the issue? Some details are not immediately obvious (the writing
> threads become blocked in page fault) as the conversation has shown.
> 
> > Fixes: 70e806e4e645 ("mm: Do early cow for pinned pages during fork() for ptes")
> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
> 
> Given how the fix seems to be localized to the already rare slowpath and
> doesn't require us to pessimize every trivial fork(), it seems reasonable to
> me even if don't have a concrete example of a sane code in the wild that's
> broken by the current behavior, so:
> 
> Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>

Acked-by: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>

-- 
Pedro


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-05 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-03 18:21 [PATCH 0/2] mm/memory: fix memory tearing on threaded fork Jann Horn
2025-06-03 18:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/memory: ensure fork child sees coherent memory snapshot Jann Horn
2025-06-03 18:29   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-03 18:37     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 19:09       ` Jann Horn
2025-06-03 20:17         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 19:03     ` Jann Horn
2025-06-04 12:22       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 18:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 20:32   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-04 15:41     ` Jann Horn
2025-06-04 16:16       ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-05  7:33   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-05 12:30     ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2025-06-06 12:55     ` Jann Horn
2025-06-06 15:34       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-06 12:49   ` Jann Horn
2025-06-06 15:49     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-03 18:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/memory: Document how we make a " Jann Horn
2025-06-04 17:03   ` Peter Xu
2025-06-04 18:11     ` Jann Horn
2025-06-04 20:10       ` Peter Xu
2025-06-04 20:28         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 14:11         ` Jann Horn

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