* [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: optimize lowmem_reserve max lookup using monotonicity @ 2025-11-14 10:40 fujunjie 2025-11-14 12:36 ` Brendan Jackman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: fujunjie @ 2025-11-14 10:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: akpm Cc: vbabka, surenb, mhocko, jackmanb, hannes, ziy, linux-mm, linux-kernel, fujunjie calculate_totalreserve_pages() currently finds the maximum lowmem_reserve[j] for a zone by scanning the full range [j = zone_idx .. MAX_NR_ZONES). However, setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() constructs lowmem_reserve[] monotonically increasing in j for a fixed zone (and never populates lowmem_reserve[zone_idx] itself). This means the maximum valid reserve entry always resides at the highest j > zone_idx that has a non-zero value. Rewrite the loop to walk backwards from MAX_NR_ZONES - 1 down to zone_idx + 1, stopping at the first non-zero lowmem_reserve[j]. This avoids a full-range scan and makes the intent clearer. Behavior remains unchanged. Although this code is not on a hot path, the revised form is clearer and avoids an unnecessary full scan. Signed-off-by: fujunjie <fujunjie1@qq.com> --- mm/page_alloc.c | 18 +++++++++++++++--- 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c index 600d9e981c23d..414c5ba978418 100644 --- a/mm/page_alloc.c +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c @@ -6285,10 +6285,22 @@ static void calculate_totalreserve_pages(void) long max = 0; unsigned long managed_pages = zone_managed_pages(zone); - /* Find valid and maximum lowmem_reserve in the zone */ - for (j = i; j < MAX_NR_ZONES; j++) - max = max(max, zone->lowmem_reserve[j]); + /* + * Find valid and maximum lowmem_reserve in the zone. + * + * setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() builds + * lowmem_reserve[j] monotonically increasing in j + * for a fixed zone, so the maximum lives at the + * highest index that has a non-zero value. Walk + * backwards and stop at the first hit. + */ + for (j = MAX_NR_ZONES - 1; j > i; j--) { + if (!zone->lowmem_reserve[j]) + continue; + max = zone->lowmem_reserve[j]; + break; + } /* we treat the high watermark as reserved pages. */ max += high_wmark_pages(zone); -- 2.34.1 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: optimize lowmem_reserve max lookup using monotonicity 2025-11-14 10:40 [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: optimize lowmem_reserve max lookup using monotonicity fujunjie @ 2025-11-14 12:36 ` Brendan Jackman 2025-11-14 14:55 ` Fujunjie 2025-11-14 16:12 ` Zi Yan 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Brendan Jackman @ 2025-11-14 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: fujunjie, akpm Cc: vbabka, surenb, mhocko, jackmanb, hannes, ziy, linux-mm, linux-kernel On Fri Nov 14, 2025 at 10:40 AM UTC, fujunjie wrote: > Although this code is not on a hot path, the revised form is clearer Is it...? If people do think it is clearer, let's at least write the right comment in the right place. Instead of having one piece of code (calculate_totalreserve_pages()) describe at a distance the behaviour of another piece of code (setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve()), let's describe an invariant of the data ("lowmem_reserve is monotonic, up to the first zero value"), at the site where the data is defined. I know sometimes in code this complex we do need these "spooky-action-at-a-distance" comments but this doesn't seem like one of those places to me. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: optimize lowmem_reserve max lookup using monotonicity 2025-11-14 12:36 ` Brendan Jackman @ 2025-11-14 14:55 ` Fujunjie 2025-11-14 16:12 ` Zi Yan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Fujunjie @ 2025-11-14 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Brendan Jackman, akpm Cc: vbabka, surenb, linux-kernel, linux-mm, linux-kernel, hannes [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3135 bytes --] On Fri Nov 14, 2025 at 8:36 PM UTC, Brendan Jackman wrote: > On Fri Nov 14, 2025 at 10:40 AM UTC, fujunjie wrote: >> Although this code is not on a hot path, the revised form is clearer > Is it...? > > If people do think it is clearer, let's at least write the right comment > in the right place. Instead of having one piece of code > (calculate_totalreserve_pages()) describe at a distance the behaviour of > another piece of code (setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve()), let's describe > an invariant of the data ("lowmem_reserve is monotonic, up to the first > zero value"), at the site where the data is defined. > > I know sometimes in code this complex we do need these > "spooky-action-at-a-distance" comments but this doesn't seem like one of > those places to me. Thanks for the review, Brendan! Let me clarify the motivation using the actual semantics of zone->lowmem_reserve[j], since that meaning is what leads to the monotonic property. For a given zone “i” (i.e., zone_idx(zone) == i), the entry zone->lowmem_reserve[j] (for j > i) represents how many pages in this zone “i” must be treated as reserved when evaluating whether an allocation class that is allowed to use zones up to “j” may fall back into zone “i”. These reserved pages protect more constrained allocations that cannot use higher zones and may rely heavily on this lower zone. Because of this meaning, as j increases we are considering allocation classes that are able to use a strictly larger set of zones. Such classes are more flexible, and therefore we should not allow them to consume more low memory than allocation classes with a smaller j. Consequently, the reserved amount for zone “i” can only stay the same or increase as j increases; it should not decrease. setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() encodes this semantics directly: as j increases, it accumulates the managed pages of higher zones and computes zone->lowmem_reserve[j] as managed_pages / ratio[i]. This makes zone->lowmem_reserve[j] monotonically non-decreasing in j by design, reflecting the intended protection model rather than an accidental implementation detail. Given this structure, scanning backward from the highest j and taking the first non-zero entry in calculate_totalreserve_pages() is a natural way to use the data: the maximum reserve for zone “i” must appear at the highest j for which the reserve is defined. For readers familiar with how zone->lowmem_reserve[j] is constructed, encountering a full forward maximum scan can raise the question “why search the entire range when the reserve grows monotonically with j?” That said, I agree with your point that if users rely on this property, the monotonicity should be documented where zone->lowmem_reserve[j] is populated (or near the field definition), rather than explained indirectly from calculate_totalreserve_pages(). I can move the comment there and keep the consuming code simple. I’ll wait a bit to see if others have opinions, and if the direction seems agreeable I can send a v2 with the comment relocated accordingly. Thanks again for the feedback! [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3718 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: optimize lowmem_reserve max lookup using monotonicity 2025-11-14 12:36 ` Brendan Jackman 2025-11-14 14:55 ` Fujunjie @ 2025-11-14 16:12 ` Zi Yan 2025-11-14 16:34 ` Fujunjie 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Zi Yan @ 2025-11-14 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Brendan Jackman Cc: fujunjie, akpm, vbabka, surenb, mhocko, hannes, linux-mm, linux-kernel On 14 Nov 2025, at 7:36, Brendan Jackman wrote: > On Fri Nov 14, 2025 at 10:40 AM UTC, fujunjie wrote: >> Although this code is not on a hot path, the revised form is clearer > > Is it...? > > If people do think it is clearer, let's at least write the right comment > in the right place. Instead of having one piece of code > (calculate_totalreserve_pages()) describe at a distance the behaviour of > another piece of code (setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve()), let's describe > an invariant of the data ("lowmem_reserve is monotonic, up to the first > zero value"), at the site where the data is defined. I agree. > > I know sometimes in code this complex we do need these > "spooky-action-at-a-distance" comments but this doesn't seem like one of > those places to me. My concern on this change is that the correctness of calculate_totalreserve_pages() now relies on the implementation of setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve(). How can we make sure in the future this will not break when setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() is changed? Hoping people read the comment and do the right thing? Best Regards, Yan, Zi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: optimize lowmem_reserve max lookup using monotonicity 2025-11-14 16:12 ` Zi Yan @ 2025-11-14 16:34 ` Fujunjie 2025-11-14 17:15 ` Zi Yan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Fujunjie @ 2025-11-14 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zi Yan, Brendan Jackman Cc: akpm, vbabka, surenb, mhocko, hannes, linux-mm, linux-kernel On Sat Nov 15, 2025 at 00:12 AM UTC, Zi Yan wrote: > My concern on this change is that the correctness of > calculate_totalreserve_pages() now relies on the implementation of > setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve(). How can we make sure in the future > this will not break when setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() is changed? > Hoping people read the comment and do the right thing? Thanks for raising this, Zi. I agree it would be a real problem if calculate_totalreserve_pages() were relying on a fragile detail of how setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() happens to be written today. What I intended to rely on is not an implementation detail, but the semantics of zone->lowmem_reserve[j] for a given zone (with zone_idx(zone) == i). For such a zone "i", zone->lowmem_reserve[j] (j > i) represents how many pages in zone "i" must effectively be kept in reserve when deciding whether an allocation class that is allowed to allocate from zones up to "j" may fall back into zone "i". The purpose of these reserves is to protect allocation classes that cannot use higher zones and therefore depend more heavily on this lower zone. When viewed this way, the partial ordering in j comes from the meaning of the field: as j increases, we are considering allocation classes that can use a strictly larger set of fallback zones. Those more flexible allocations should not be allowed to consume more low memory than the less flexible ones. It would be quite unexpected—in terms of the reserve semantics—if a higher-j allocation class were permitted to deplete zone "i" more aggressively than a lower-j one. So the “non-decreasing in j” property is really a data invariant implied by the reserve semantics, rather than an assumption about how setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() happens to be implemented today. setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() currently encodes this meaning by accumulating managed pages from higher zones and applying the configured ratio. If some future change were to alter that implementation in a way that breaks monotonicity, that would likely reflect a change in the intended semantics of lowmem_reserve itself—at which point consumers like calculate_totalreserve_pages() would naturally need to be updated as well. Best Regards, Junjie,Fu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: optimize lowmem_reserve max lookup using monotonicity 2025-11-14 16:34 ` Fujunjie @ 2025-11-14 17:15 ` Zi Yan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Zi Yan @ 2025-11-14 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fujunjie Cc: Brendan Jackman, akpm, vbabka, surenb, mhocko, hannes, linux-mm, linux-kernel On 14 Nov 2025, at 11:34, Fujunjie wrote: > On Sat Nov 15, 2025 at 00:12 AM UTC, Zi Yan wrote: > >> My concern on this change is that the correctness of >> calculate_totalreserve_pages() now relies on the implementation of >> setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve(). How can we make sure in the future >> this will not break when setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() is changed? >> Hoping people read the comment and do the right thing? > Thanks for raising this, Zi. > > I agree it would be a real problem if calculate_totalreserve_pages() > were relying on a fragile detail of how setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() > happens to be written today. > > What I intended to rely on is not an implementation detail, but the > semantics of zone->lowmem_reserve[j] for a given zone (with > zone_idx(zone) == i). > > For such a zone "i", zone->lowmem_reserve[j] (j > i) represents how many > pages in zone "i" must effectively be kept in reserve when deciding > whether an allocation class that is allowed to allocate from zones up to > "j" may fall back into zone "i". The purpose of these reserves is to > protect allocation classes that cannot use higher zones and therefore > depend more heavily on this lower zone. > > When viewed this way, the partial ordering in j comes from the meaning > of the field: as j increases, we are considering allocation classes that > can use a strictly larger set of fallback zones. Those more flexible > allocations should not be allowed to consume more low memory than the > less flexible ones. It would be quite unexpected—in terms of the reserve > semantics—if a higher-j allocation class were permitted to deplete zone > "i" more aggressively than a lower-j one. > > So the “non-decreasing in j” property is really a data invariant implied > by the reserve semantics, rather than an assumption about how > setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() happens to be implemented today. > > setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() currently encodes this meaning by > accumulating managed pages from higher zones and applying the configured > ratio. If some future change were to alter that implementation in a way > that breaks monotonicity, that would likely reflect a change in the > intended semantics of lowmem_reserve itself—at which point consumers > like calculate_totalreserve_pages() would naturally need to be updated > as well. Thank you for the explanation. Now your changes make more sense to me. Like Brendan mentioned, at least add a comment in setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve() to state this monotonicity requirement and mention the correctness of calculate_totalreserve_pages() relies on it. And also please add the above text to the commit log to clarify the purpose of the patch. Thanks. Best Regards, Yan, Zi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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