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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Daniel Sedlak <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com>,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	 Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Matyas Hurtik <matyas.hurtik@cdn77.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 10:50:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <telhuoj5bj5eskhicysxkblc4vr6qlcq3vx7pgi6p34g4zfwxw@6vm2r2hg3my4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ni4axiks6hvap3ixl6i23q7grjbki3akeea2xxzhdlkmrj5hpb@qt3vtmiayvpz>

On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 10:57:31AM +0200, Michal Koutný wrote:
> Hello Daniel.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 09:11:46AM +0200, Daniel Sedlak <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com> wrote:
> >   /sys/fs/cgroup/**/<cgroup name>/memory.net.socket_pressure
> > 
> > The output value is an integer matching the internal semantics of the
> > struct mem_cgroup for socket_pressure. It is a periodic re-arm clock,
> > representing the end of the said socket memory pressure, and once the
> > clock is re-armed it is set to jiffies + HZ.
> 
> I don't find it ideal to expose this value in its raw form that is
> rather an implementation detail.
> 
> IIUC, the information is possibly valid only during one jiffy interval.
> How would be the userspace consuming this?
> 
> I'd consider exposing this as a cummulative counter in memory.stat for
> simplicity (or possibly cummulative time spent in the pressure
> condition).
> 
> Shakeel, how useful is this vmpressure per-cgroup tracking nowadays? I
> thought it's kind of legacy.


Yes vmpressure is legacy and we should not expose raw underlying number
to the userspace. How about just 0 or 1 and use
mem_cgroup_under_socket_pressure() underlying? In future if we change
the underlying implementation, the output of this interface should be
consistent.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-22  7:11 Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-22  7:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-22  7:27   ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-22  8:57 ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-22 17:50   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-07-22 18:27     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 18:41       ` Waiman Long
2025-07-22 18:49         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 19:05       ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 19:58         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 20:11           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 22:10             ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-23  8:38             ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-23  8:58               ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-23 17:54                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-24  8:43                   ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-25  0:44                     ` Tejun Heo
2025-07-28 11:29                       ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-30  0:15                         ` Tejun Heo
2025-07-23  8:41         ` Daniel Sedlak

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