From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Daniel Sedlak <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Matyas Hurtik <matyas.hurtik@cdn77.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 10:50:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <telhuoj5bj5eskhicysxkblc4vr6qlcq3vx7pgi6p34g4zfwxw@6vm2r2hg3my4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ni4axiks6hvap3ixl6i23q7grjbki3akeea2xxzhdlkmrj5hpb@qt3vtmiayvpz>
On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 10:57:31AM +0200, Michal Koutný wrote:
> Hello Daniel.
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 09:11:46AM +0200, Daniel Sedlak <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com> wrote:
> > /sys/fs/cgroup/**/<cgroup name>/memory.net.socket_pressure
> >
> > The output value is an integer matching the internal semantics of the
> > struct mem_cgroup for socket_pressure. It is a periodic re-arm clock,
> > representing the end of the said socket memory pressure, and once the
> > clock is re-armed it is set to jiffies + HZ.
>
> I don't find it ideal to expose this value in its raw form that is
> rather an implementation detail.
>
> IIUC, the information is possibly valid only during one jiffy interval.
> How would be the userspace consuming this?
>
> I'd consider exposing this as a cummulative counter in memory.stat for
> simplicity (or possibly cummulative time spent in the pressure
> condition).
>
> Shakeel, how useful is this vmpressure per-cgroup tracking nowadays? I
> thought it's kind of legacy.
Yes vmpressure is legacy and we should not expose raw underlying number
to the userspace. How about just 0 or 1 and use
mem_cgroup_under_socket_pressure() underlying? In future if we change
the underlying implementation, the output of this interface should be
consistent.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-22 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-22 7:11 Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-22 7:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-22 7:27 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-22 8:57 ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-22 17:50 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-07-22 18:27 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 18:41 ` Waiman Long
2025-07-22 18:49 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 19:05 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 19:58 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 20:11 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 22:10 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-23 8:38 ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-23 8:58 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-23 17:54 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-24 8:43 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-25 0:44 ` Tejun Heo
2025-07-28 11:29 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-07-30 0:15 ` Tejun Heo
2025-07-23 8:41 ` Daniel Sedlak
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