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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm, page_alloc: disallow __GFP_COMP in alloc_pages_exact()
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 19:00:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hpnqt5ob2.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1903141021550.1591@eggly.anvils>

On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:37:06 +0100,
Hugh Dickins wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:29:33 +0100,
> > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu 14-03-19 14:15:38, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:09:39 +0100,
> > > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu 14-03-19 12:56:43, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:36:26 +0100,
> > > > > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thu 14-03-19 11:30:03, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > > > > > I initially went with 2 as well, as you can see from v1 :) but then I looked at
> > > > > > > > the commit [2] mentioned in [1] and I think ALSA legitimaly uses __GFP_COMP so
> > > > > > > > that the pages are then mapped to userspace. Breaking that didn't seem good.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It used the flag legitimately before because they were allocating
> > > > > > > compound pages but now they don't so this is just a conversion bug.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We still use __GFP_COMP for allocation of the sound buffers that are
> > > > > > also mmapped to user-space.  The mentioned commit above [2] was
> > > > > > reverted later.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, I understand that part. __GFP_COMP makes sense on a comound page.
> > > > > But if you are using alloc_pages_exact then the flag doesn't make sense
> > > > > because split out should already do what you want. Unless I am missing
> > > > > something.
> > > > 
> > > > The __GFP_COMP was taken as a sort of workaround for the problem wrt
> > > > mmap I already forgot.  If it can be eliminated, it's all good.
> > > 
> > > Without __GFP_COMP you would get tail pages which are not setup properly
> > > AFAIU. With alloc_pages_exact you should get an "array" of head pages
> > > which are properly reference counted. But I might misunderstood the
> > > original problem which __GFP_COMP tried to solve.
> > 
> > I only vaguely remember that it was about a Bad Page error for the
> > reserved pages, but forgot the all details, sorry.
> > 
> > Hugh, could you confirm whether we still need __GFP_COMP in the sound
> > buffer allocations?  FWIW, it's the change introduced by the ancient
> > commit f3d48f0373c1.
> 
> I'm not confident in finding all "the sound buffer allocations".
> Where you're using alloc_pages_exact() for them, you do not need
> __GFP_COMP, and should not pass it.

It was my fault attempt to convert to alloc_pages_exact() and hitting
the incompatibility with __GFP_COMP, so it was reverted in the end.

> But if there are other places
> where you use one of those page allocators with an "order" argument
> non-zero, and map that buffer into userspace (without any split_page()),
> there you would still need the __GFP_COMP - zap_pte_range() and others
> do the wrong thing on tail ptes if the non-zero-order page has neither
> been set up as compound nor split into zero-order pages.

Hm, what if we allocate the whole pages via alloc_pages_exact() (but
without __GFP_COMP)?  Can we mmap them properly to user-space like
before, or it won't work as-is?


thanks,

Takashi


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-14 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-14  9:39 [PATCH] " Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14  9:42 ` [PATCH v2] " Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14 10:15   ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 10:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14 11:36       ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 11:56         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 12:09           ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 13:15             ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 13:29               ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 16:52                 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 17:37                   ` Hugh Dickins
2019-03-14 18:00                     ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2019-03-14 18:15                       ` Hugh Dickins
2019-03-14 20:13                         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 18:51   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-18 12:21   ` [PATCH v3] " Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-18 12:43     ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-19  8:45     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-19  9:47     ` Mel Gorman

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