From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <howlett@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
kernel-team@meta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] mm/madvise: batch tlb flushes for MADV_DONTNEED and MADV_FREE
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 12:22:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ro2wtggwxbmwk6lhvcixwrefo44x7ggeumevv7lyupvudwxjsg@onh2e46eqzcy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250305181611.54484-1-sj@kernel.org>
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:15:55AM -0800, SeongJae Park wrote:
> For MADV_DONTNEED[_LOCKED] or MADV_FREE madvise requests, tlb flushes
> can happen for each vma of the given address ranges. Because such tlb
> flushes are for address ranges of same process, doing those in a batch
> is more efficient while still being safe. Modify madvise() and
> process_madvise() entry level code path to do such batched tlb flushes,
> while the internal unmap logics do only gathering of the tlb entries to
> flush.
>
> In more detail, modify the entry functions to initialize an mmu_gather
> ojbect and pass it to the internal logics. Also modify the internal
> logics to do only gathering of the tlb entries to flush into the
> received mmu_gather object. After all internal function calls are done,
> the entry functions finish the mmu_gather object to flush the gathered
> tlb entries in the one batch.
>
> Patches Seuquence
> =================
>
> First four patches are minor cleanups of madvise.c for readability.
>
> Following four patches (patches 5-8) define new data structure for
> managing information that required for batched tlb flushing (mmu_gather
> and behavior), and update code paths for MADV_DONTNEED[_LOCKED] and
> MADV_FREE handling internal logics to receive it.
>
> Three patches (patches 9-11) for making internal MADV_DONTNEED[_LOCKED]
> and MADV_FREE handling logic ready for batched tlb flushing follow.
I think you forgot to complete the above sentence or the 'follow' at the
end seems weird.
> The
> patches keep the support of unbatched tlb flushes use case, for
> fine-grained and safe transitions.
>
> Next three patches (patches 12-14) update madvise() and
> process_madvise() code to do the batched tlb flushes utilizing the
> previous patches introduced changes.
>
> Final two patches (patches 15-16) clean up the internal logics'
> unbatched tlb flushes use case support code, which is no more be used.
>
> Test Results
> ============
>
> I measured the time to apply MADV_DONTNEED advice to 256 MiB memory
> using multiple process_madvise() calls. I apply the advice in 4 KiB
> sized regions granularity, but with varying batch size (vlen) from 1 to
> 1024. The source code for the measurement is available at GitHub[1].
>
> The measurement results are as below. 'sz_batches' column shows the
> batch size of process_madvise() calls. 'before' and 'after' columns are
> the measured time to apply MADV_DONTNEED to the 256 MiB memory buffer in
> nanoseconds, on kernels that built without and with the MADV_DONTNEED
> tlb flushes batching patch of this series, respectively. For the
> baseline, mm-unstable tree of 2025-03-04[2] has been used.
> 'after/before' column is the ratio of 'after' to 'before'. So
> 'afetr/before' value lower than 1.0 means this patch increased
> efficiency over the baseline. And lower value means better efficiency.
I would recommend to replace the after/end column with percentage i.e.
percentage improvement or degradation.
>
> sz_batches before after after/before
> 1 102842895 106507398 1.03563204828102
> 2 73364942 74529223 1.01586971880929
> 4 58823633 51608504 0.877343022998937
> 8 47532390 44820223 0.942940655834895
> 16 43591587 36727177 0.842529018271347
> 32 44207282 33946975 0.767904595446515
> 64 41832437 26738286 0.639175910310939
> 128 40278193 23262940 0.577556694263817
> 256 41568533 22355103 0.537789077136785
> 512 41626638 22822516 0.54826709762148
> 1024 44440870 22676017 0.510251419470411
>
> For <=2 batch size, tlb flushes batching shows no big difference but
> slight overhead. I think that's in an error range of this simple
> micro-benchmark, and therefore can be ignored.
I would recommend to run the experiment multiple times and report
averages and standard deviation which will support your error range
claim.
> Starting from batch size
> 4, however, tlb flushes batching shows clear efficiency gain. The
> efficiency gain tends to be proportional to the batch size, as expected.
> The efficiency gain ranges from about 13 percent with batch size 4, and
> up to 49 percent with batch size 1,024.
>
> Please note that this is a very simple microbenchmark, so real
> efficiency gain on real workload could be very different.
>
I think you are running a single thread benchmark on a free machine. I
expect this series to be much more beneficial on loaded machine and for
multi-threaded applications. No need to test that scenario but if you
have already done that then it would be good to report.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-05 20:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-05 18:15 SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] mm/madvise: use is_memory_failure() from madvise_do_behavior() SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 20:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-05 23:13 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] mm/madvise: split out populate behavior check logic SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 20:32 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-05 23:18 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] mm/madvise: deduplicate madvise_do_behavior() skip case handlings SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] mm/madvise: remove len parameter of madvise_do_behavior() SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] mm/madvise: define and use madvise_behavior struct for madvise_do_behavior() SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 21:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-05 21:40 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-05 23:56 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-06 3:37 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-06 4:18 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] mm/madvise: pass madvise_behavior struct to madvise_vma_behavior() SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] mm/madvise: make madvise_walk_vmas() visit function receives a void pointer SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] mm/madvise: pass madvise_behavior struct to madvise_dontneed_free() SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] mm/memory: split non-tlb flushing part from zap_page_range_single() SeongJae Park
2025-03-06 18:45 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-06 19:09 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] mm/madvise: let madvise_dontneed_single_vma() caller batches tlb flushes SeongJae Park
2025-03-06 18:36 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-06 19:10 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] mm/madvise: let madvise_free_single_vma() " SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] mm/madvise: batch tlb flushes for process_madvise(MADV_DONTNEED[_LOCKED]) SeongJae Park
2025-03-06 18:36 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-06 19:11 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] mm/madvise: batch tlb flushes for process_madvise(MADV_FREE) SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] mm/madvise: batch tlb flushes for madvise(MADV_{DONTNEED[_LOCKED],FREE} SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] mm/madvise: remove !tlb support from madvise_dontneed_single_vma() SeongJae Park
2025-03-06 18:37 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-05 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] mm/madvise: remove !caller_tlb case of madvise_free_single_vma() SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 18:56 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] mm/madvise: batch tlb flushes for MADV_DONTNEED and MADV_FREE Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-05 19:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-05 19:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-03-05 19:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-05 19:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-03-05 19:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-05 19:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-05 20:59 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 19:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-03-05 19:57 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-05 22:46 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 20:22 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-03-05 22:58 ` SeongJae Park
2025-03-05 20:36 ` Nadav Amit
2025-03-05 23:02 ` SeongJae Park
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