From: Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
ziy@nvidia.com, baohua@kernel.org, lance.yang@linux.dev,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] mm: khugepaged: remove mm when all memory has been collapsed
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2025 00:07:33 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <rejhtz6lttfqhvpvegy4eaph3dyajeoqi55erljwhubsxtlmcb@ugq5cueg7fkb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52174c05-e9ed-4049-ac05-d0d0b3228f2a@arm.com>
On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 04:48:57PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>
> On 19/12/25 2:05 pm, Vernon Yang wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 10:29:18AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> >> On 12/15/25 10:04, Vernon Yang wrote:
> >>> The following data is traced by bpftrace on a desktop system. After
> >>> the system has been left idle for 10 minutes upon booting, a lot of
> >>> SCAN_PMD_MAPPED or SCAN_PMD_NONE are observed during a full scan by
> >>> khugepaged.
> >>>
> >>> @scan_pmd_status[1]: 1 ## SCAN_SUCCEED
> >>> @scan_pmd_status[4]: 158 ## SCAN_PMD_MAPPED
> >>> @scan_pmd_status[3]: 174 ## SCAN_PMD_NONE
> >>> total progress size: 701 MB
> >>> Total time : 440 seconds ## include khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs
> >>>
> >>> The khugepaged_scan list save all task that support collapse into hugepage,
> >>> as long as the take is not destroyed, khugepaged will not remove it from
> >>> the khugepaged_scan list. This exist a phenomenon where task has already
> >>> collapsed all memory regions into hugepage, but khugepaged continues to
> >>> scan it, which wastes CPU time and invalid, and due to
> >>> khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs (default 10s) causes a long wait for
> >>> scanning a large number of invalid task, so scanning really valid task
> >>> is later.
> >>>
> >>> After applying this patch, when all memory is either SCAN_PMD_MAPPED or
> >>> SCAN_PMD_NONE, the mm is automatically removed from khugepaged's scan
> >>> list. If the page fault or MADV_HUGEPAGE again, it is added back to
> >>> khugepaged.
> >> I don't like that, as it assumes that memory within such a process would be
> >> rather static, which is easily not the case (e.g., allocators just doing
> >> MADV_DONTNEED to free memory).
> >>
> >> If most stuff is collapsed to PMDs already, can't we just skip over these
> >> regions a bit faster?
> > I have a flash of inspiration and came up with a good idea.
> >
> > If these regions have already been collapsed into hugepage, rechecking
> > them would be very fast. Due to the khugepaged_pages_to_scan can also
> > represent the number of VMAs to skip, we can extend its semantics as
> > follows:
> >
> > /*
> > * default scan 8*HPAGE_PMD_NR ptes, pmd_mapped, no_pte_table or vmas
> > * every 10 second.
> > */
> > static unsigned int khugepaged_pages_to_scan __read_mostly;
> >
> > switch (*result) {
> > case SCAN_NO_PTE_TABLE:
> > case SCAN_PMD_MAPPED:
> > case SCAN_PTE_MAPPED_HUGEPAGE:
> > progress++; // here
> > break;
> > case SCAN_SUCCEED:
> > ++khugepaged_pages_collapsed;
> > fallthrough;
> > default:
> > progress += HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> > }
> >
> > This way can achieve our goal. David, do you like it?
>
> This looks good, can you formally test this and see if it comes close to the optimizations
> yielded by the current version of the patchset?
Both can achieve this function, reducing the time of a full scan,
previously tested.
About performance test, I will test it formally.
--
Merry Christmas,
Vernon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-25 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-15 9:04 [PATCH 0/4] Improve khugepaged scan logic Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 9:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: khugepaged: add trace_mm_khugepaged_scan event Vernon Yang
2025-12-18 9:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 5:21 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 9:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: khugepaged: remove mm when all memory has been collapsed Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 11:52 ` Lance Yang
2025-12-16 6:27 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 21:45 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 6:30 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 23:01 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 6:32 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-17 3:31 ` Wei Yang
2025-12-18 3:27 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-18 3:48 ` Wei Yang
2025-12-18 4:41 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-18 9:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 5:24 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-19 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 8:35 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-19 8:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-23 11:18 ` Dev Jain
2025-12-25 16:07 ` Vernon Yang [this message]
2025-12-29 6:02 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-22 19:00 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-15 9:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: khugepaged: move mm to list tail when MADV_COLD/MADV_FREE Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 21:12 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 7:00 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-16 13:08 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 13:31 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-18 9:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 5:29 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-19 8:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-21 2:10 ` Wei Yang
2025-12-21 4:25 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-21 9:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-21 12:34 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-23 9:59 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-25 15:12 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-21 12:38 ` Wei Yang
2025-12-15 9:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: khugepaged: set to next mm direct when mm has MMF_DISABLE_THP_COMPLETELY Vernon Yang
2025-12-18 9:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 5:31 ` Vernon Yang
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