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From: Christoph Rohland <hans-christoph.rohland@sap.com>
To: Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: [RFC] [RFT] Shared /dev/zero mmaping feature
Date: 01 Mar 2000 18:55:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <qww66v6mv7j.fsf@sap.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com's message of "Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:34:53 -0800 (PST)"

kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com (Kanoj Sarcar) writes:

> What you have sent is what I used as a first draft for the implementation.
> The good part of it is that it reduces code duplication. The _really_ bad
> part is that it penalizes users in terms of numbers of shared memory 
> segments, max size of /dev/zero mappings, and limitations imposed by
> shm_ctlmax/shm_ctlall/shm_ctlmni etc. I do not think taking up a 
> shmid for each /dev/zero mapping is a good idea ...

We can tune all these parameters at runtime. This should not be a
reason.

> Furthermore, I did not want to change behavior of information returned
> by ipc* and various procfs commands, as well as swapout behavior, thus
> the creation of the zmap_list. I decided a few lines of special case
> checking in a handful of places was a much better option.

IMHO all this SYSV ipc stuff is a totally broken API and many agree
with me. I do not care to clutter up the output of it a little bit for
this feature.

Nobody can know who is creating private IPC segments. So nobody should
be irritated by some more segments displayed/used.

In the contrary: I like the ability to restrict the usage of these
segments with the ipc parameters. Keep in mind you can stack a lot of
segments for a DOS attack. and all the segments will use the whole
memory.

> If the current /dev/zero stuff hampers any plans you have with shm code 
> (eg page cachification), I would be willing to talk about it ...

It makes shm fs a lot more work. And the special handling slows down
shm handling.

Greetings
		Christoph
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-03-01 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-02-25 23:08 Kanoj Sarcar
2000-02-26 16:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-02-26 21:47   ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-02-29 10:54 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-02-29 18:30   ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-03-01 12:08     ` Christoph Rohland
2000-03-01 17:34       ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-03-01 17:55         ` Christoph Rohland [this message]
2000-03-01 18:18           ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-03-01 19:42             ` Christoph Rohland
2000-03-01 20:09               ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-03-06 22:43                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-06 23:01                   ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-03-08 12:02                     ` Christoph Rohland
2000-03-08 17:51                       ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-03-08 18:35                         ` Christoph Rohland
2000-03-08 18:48                           ` Linus Torvalds
2000-03-08 18:57                           ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-03-09 18:15                             ` Christoph Rohland

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