From: Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
ziy@nvidia.com, baohua@kernel.org, lance.yang@linux.dev,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] mm: khugepaged: remove mm when all memory has been collapsed
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 13:24:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <qjrahvphdjzbptb4k7lzxbp2encmejvxumuzqiu6au3n3zwr2z@a2gxh37ba3ix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26e65878-f214-4890-8bcb-24a45122bfd6@kernel.org>
On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 10:29:18AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 12/15/25 10:04, Vernon Yang wrote:
> > The following data is traced by bpftrace on a desktop system. After
> > the system has been left idle for 10 minutes upon booting, a lot of
> > SCAN_PMD_MAPPED or SCAN_PMD_NONE are observed during a full scan by
> > khugepaged.
> >
> > @scan_pmd_status[1]: 1 ## SCAN_SUCCEED
> > @scan_pmd_status[4]: 158 ## SCAN_PMD_MAPPED
> > @scan_pmd_status[3]: 174 ## SCAN_PMD_NONE
> > total progress size: 701 MB
> > Total time : 440 seconds ## include khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs
> >
> > The khugepaged_scan list save all task that support collapse into hugepage,
> > as long as the take is not destroyed, khugepaged will not remove it from
> > the khugepaged_scan list. This exist a phenomenon where task has already
> > collapsed all memory regions into hugepage, but khugepaged continues to
> > scan it, which wastes CPU time and invalid, and due to
> > khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs (default 10s) causes a long wait for
> > scanning a large number of invalid task, so scanning really valid task
> > is later.
> >
> > After applying this patch, when all memory is either SCAN_PMD_MAPPED or
> > SCAN_PMD_NONE, the mm is automatically removed from khugepaged's scan
> > list. If the page fault or MADV_HUGEPAGE again, it is added back to
> > khugepaged.
>
> I don't like that, as it assumes that memory within such a process would be
> rather static, which is easily not the case (e.g., allocators just doing
> MADV_DONTNEED to free memory).
>
> If most stuff is collapsed to PMDs already, can't we just skip over these
> regions a bit faster?
/* default scan 8*HPAGE_PMD_NR ptes (or vmas) every 10 second */
static unsigned int khugepaged_pages_to_scan __read_mostly;
The observed phenomenon is that when scanning these regions, the loop is
broken upon reaching the number of khugepaged_pages_to_scan, thereforce
the khugepaged enters 10s sleep. So if we just skip over these regions,
will break the semantics of khugepaged_pages_to_scan.
I also think this approach is great because it is simple sufficiently.
If we can skip over these regions directly, that's excellent.
> --
> Cheers
>
> David
--
Thanks,
Vernon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-19 5:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-15 9:04 [PATCH 0/4] Improve khugepaged scan logic Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 9:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: khugepaged: add trace_mm_khugepaged_scan event Vernon Yang
2025-12-18 9:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 5:21 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 9:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: khugepaged: remove mm when all memory has been collapsed Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 11:52 ` Lance Yang
2025-12-16 6:27 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 21:45 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 6:30 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 23:01 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 6:32 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-17 3:31 ` Wei Yang
2025-12-18 3:27 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-18 3:48 ` Wei Yang
2025-12-18 4:41 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-18 9:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 5:24 ` Vernon Yang [this message]
2025-12-19 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 8:35 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-19 8:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-23 11:18 ` Dev Jain
2025-12-25 16:07 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-29 6:02 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-22 19:00 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-15 9:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: khugepaged: move mm to list tail when MADV_COLD/MADV_FREE Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 21:12 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 7:00 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-16 13:08 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 13:31 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-18 9:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 5:29 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-19 8:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-21 2:10 ` Wei Yang
2025-12-21 4:25 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-21 9:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-21 12:34 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-23 9:59 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-25 15:12 ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-21 12:38 ` Wei Yang
2025-12-15 9:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: khugepaged: set to next mm direct when mm has MMF_DISABLE_THP_COMPLETELY Vernon Yang
2025-12-18 9:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 5:31 ` Vernon Yang
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