From: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 8/8] mm/slab: place slabobj_ext metadata in unused space within s->size
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:48:46 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pyhgduyryvfoxfb72hdnojd63fkgwx2jbn5r2h4cuthkki2ouf@ntuesnpnterc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30ecc144-ea2c-4259-afbf-3d96849aded2@suse.cz>
On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 11:52:36AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 1/8/26 11:44, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 05:52:27PM +0800, Hao Li wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 05:41:00PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 01:52:09PM +0800, Hao Li wrote:
> >> > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 05:02:30PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> >> > > > When a cache has high s->align value and s->object_size is not aligned
> >> > > > to it, each object ends up with some unused space because of alignment.
> >> > > > If this wasted space is big enough, we can use it to store the
> >> > > > slabobj_ext metadata instead of wasting it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi, Harry,
> >> >
> >> > Hi Hao,
> >> >
> >> > > When we save obj_ext in s->size space, it seems that slab_ksize() might
> >> > > be missing the corresponding handling.
> >> >
> >> > Oops.
> >> >
> >> > > It still returns s->size, which could cause callers of slab_ksize()
> >> > > to see unexpected data (i.e. obj_ext), or even overwrite the obj_ext data.
> >> >
> >> > Yes indeed.
> >> > Great point, thanks!
> >> >
> >> > I'll fix it by checking if the slab has obj_exts within the object
> >> > layout and returning s->object_size if so.
> >>
> >> Makes sense - I think there's one more nuance worth capturing.
> >> slab_ksize() seems to compute the maximum safe size by applying layout
> >> constraints from most-restrictive to least-restrictive:
> >> redzones/poison/KASAN clamp it to object_size, tail metadata
> >> (SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU / SLAB_STORE_USER) clamps it to inuse, and only
> >> when nothing metadata lives does it return s->size.
> >
> > Waaaait, SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU isn't the only case where we put freelist
> > pointer after the object.
> >
> > What about caches with constructor?
> > We do place it after object, but slab_ksize() may return s->size?
>
> I think the freelist pointer is fine because it's not used by allocated objects?
> Also ksize() should no longer be used to fill more of the object than that
> was requested in the first place.
Yes - being conservative here seems safest. Exposing extra bytes that
callers don't expect could easily break assumptions and lead to subtle
bugs.
--
Thanks,
Hao
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-08 12:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-05 8:02 [PATCH V5 0/8] mm/slab: reduce slab accounting memory overhead by allocating slabobj_ext metadata within unsed slab space Harry Yoo
2026-01-05 8:02 ` [PATCH V5 1/8] mm/slab: use unsigned long for orig_size to ensure proper metadata align Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 11:43 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08 7:12 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 11:39 ` Alexander Potapenko
2026-01-09 1:52 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-09 9:30 ` Alexander Potapenko
2026-01-12 6:28 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-05 8:02 ` [PATCH V5 2/8] mm/slab: allow specifying free pointer offset when using constructor Harry Yoo
2026-01-05 8:02 ` [PATCH V5 3/8] ext4: specify the free pointer offset for ext4_inode_cache Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 13:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08 7:14 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-05 8:02 ` [PATCH V5 4/8] mm/slab: abstract slabobj_ext access via new slab_obj_ext() helper Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 14:53 ` Hao Li
2026-01-08 7:21 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 14:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08 8:03 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-05 8:02 ` [PATCH V5 5/8] mm/slab: use stride to access slabobj_ext Harry Yoo
2026-01-05 8:02 ` [PATCH V5 6/8] mm/memcontrol,alloc_tag: handle slabobj_ext access under KASAN poison Harry Yoo
2026-01-05 8:02 ` [PATCH V5 7/8] mm/slab: save memory by allocating slabobj_ext array from leftover Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 17:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-05 8:02 ` [PATCH V5 8/8] mm/slab: place slabobj_ext metadata in unused space within s->size Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 17:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08 9:02 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 5:52 ` Hao Li
2026-01-08 8:41 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 9:52 ` Hao Li
2026-01-08 10:28 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 10:44 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 10:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08 12:48 ` Hao Li [this message]
2026-01-09 2:32 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 11:57 ` Hao Li
2026-01-05 8:05 ` [PATCH V5 0/8] mm/slab: reduce slab accounting memory overhead by allocating slabobj_ext metadata within unsed slab space Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 17:43 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08 7:05 ` Harry Yoo
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