From: "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@pankajraghav.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, p.raghav@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] mm/readahead: Honour new_order in page_cache_ra_order()
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 22:50:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pskrpcu3lflo3pgeyfvnifcn7z2o6bsieaclntsbyvefs4ab3a@cyfnf36mccvi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22e4167a-6ed0-4bda-86b8-a11c984f0a71@arm.com>
> >>
> >
> > So we always had a fallback to do_page_cache_ra() if the size of the
> > readahead is less than 4 pages (16k). I think this was there because we
> > were adding `2` to the new_order:
>
> If this is the reason for the magic number 4, then it's a bug in itself IMHO. 4
> pages is only 16K when the page size is 4K; arm64 supports other page sizes. But
> additionally, it's not just ra->size that dictates the final order of the folio;
> it also depends on alignment in the file, EOF, etc.
>
IIRC, initially we were not able to use order-1 folios[1], so we always
did a fallback for any order < 2 using do_page_cache_ra(). I think that
is where the magic order 2 (4 pages) is coming. Please someone can
correct me if I am wrong.
But we don't have that limitation for file-backed folios anymore, so the
fallback for ra->size < 4 is probably not needed. So the only time we do
a fallback is if we don't support large folios.
> If we remove the fallback condition completely, things will still work out. So
> unless someone can explain the reason for that condition (Matthew?), my vote
> would be to remove it entirely.
I am actually fine with removing the first part of this fallback condition.
But as I said, we still need to do a fallback if we don't support large folios.
--
Pankaj
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZH0GvxAdw1RO2Shr@casper.infradead.org/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-09 20:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-30 14:59 [RFC PATCH v4 0/5] Readahead tweaks for larger folios Ryan Roberts
2025-04-30 14:59 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] mm/readahead: Honour new_order in page_cache_ra_order() Ryan Roberts
2025-05-05 8:49 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-05 9:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05 10:09 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-05 10:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05 12:51 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-05 16:14 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-05 10:09 ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-05-05 13:00 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-08 12:55 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-05-09 13:30 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-09 20:50 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) [this message]
2025-05-13 12:33 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-13 6:19 ` Chaitanya S Prakash
2025-04-30 14:59 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/5] mm/readahead: Terminate async readahead on natural boundary Ryan Roberts
2025-05-05 9:13 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-05 9:37 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-06 9:28 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-06 11:29 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-06 15:31 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-04-30 14:59 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/5] mm/readahead: Make space in struct file_ra_state Ryan Roberts
2025-05-05 9:39 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-05 9:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 10:00 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-04-30 14:59 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/5] mm/readahead: Store folio order " Ryan Roberts
2025-05-05 9:52 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-06 9:53 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-06 10:45 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-05 10:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-06 10:03 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-06 14:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-06 15:06 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-04-30 14:59 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/5] mm/filemap: Allow arch to request folio size for exec memory Ryan Roberts
2025-05-05 10:06 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-09 13:52 ` Will Deacon
2025-05-13 12:46 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-14 15:14 ` Will Deacon
2025-05-14 15:31 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-06 10:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/5] Readahead tweaks for larger folios Ryan Roberts
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