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From: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	x86@kernel.org,  torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, bp@alien8.de,
	 dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	luto@kernel.org,  paulmck@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, willy@infradead.org,  jon.grimm@amd.com,
	bharata@amd.com, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
	 boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for multi-page clearing
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 00:26:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pf2p3ugs3blztd5jtxuwrg3hc3qldc4a7lfpigf24tit5noyik@67qhychq2b77> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250414110259.GF5600@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 01:02:59PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> This symbol is written as a C function with C calling convention, even
> though it is only meant to be called from that clear_page() alternative.
> 
> If we want to go change all this, then we should go do the same we do
> for __clear_user() and write it thusly:
> 
> 	asm volatile(ALTERNATIVE("rep stosb",
> 				 "call rep_stos_alternative", ALT_NOT(X86_FEATURE_FSRS)
> 				 : "+c" (size), "+D" (addr), ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT
> 				 : "a" (0))
> 
> And forget about all those clear_page_*() thingies.
> 

I have to disagree.

Next to nobody has FSRS, so for now one would have to expect everyone
would be punting to the routine. Did you mean ERMS as sizes are in fact
not short?

rep_stos_alternative() as implemented right now sucks in its own right
("small" areas sorted out with an 8 byte and 1 byte loops, bigger ones
unrolled 64 byte loop at a time, no rep stos{b,q} in sight). Someone(tm)
should fix it and for the sake of argument suppose it happened. That's
still some code executed to figure out how to zero and to align the buf.

Instead, I think one can start with just retiring clear_page_orig().

With that sucker out of the way, an optional quest is to figure out if
rep stosq vs rep stosb makes any difference for pages -- for all I know
rep stosq is the way. This would require testing on quite a few uarchs
and I'm not going to blame anyone for not being interested.

Let's say nobody bothered OR rep stosb provides a win. In that case this
can trivially ALTERNATIVE between rep stosb and rep stosq based on ERMS,
no func calls necessary.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-14 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-14  3:46 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add " Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for " Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 11:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:46       ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 22:26       ` Mateusz Guzik [this message]
2025-04-15  6:14         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15  8:22           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 20:01             ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 20:32               ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14 19:52     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 20:09       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-15 21:59         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] x86/clear_page: add clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] huge_page: allow arch override for folio_zero_user() Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] x86/folio_zero_user: multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 21:21     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  7:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-15  6:36     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-22  6:36     ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-22 19:14       ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 10:16   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 21:46     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 22:01       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-16  4:46         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-17 14:06           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14  5:34 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add " Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:30   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:19   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 19:10 ` Zi Yan
2025-04-22 19:32   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-22  6:23 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-22 19:22   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-23  8:12     ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-23  9:18       ` Raghavendra K T

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