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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	 Takero Funaki <flintglass@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Domenico Cerasuolo <cerasuolodomenico@gmail.com>,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] mm: zswap: fix global shrinker memcg iteration
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 09:49:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pezgvebjcykwgawtmvymqwktul25pgw5orxvvrbm24hjc3sizv@3yg7tbpwnlnf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=PF=a2+pUBM3xEHBMu6VJY2Q64eTmVwo7vb4YmJQpK_DA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 08:04:39AM GMT, Nhat Pham wrote:
[...]
> > > >
> > > > Is the idea here to avoid moving the iterator to another offline memcg
> > > > that zswap_memcg_offline_cleanup() was already called for, to avoid
> > > > holding a ref on that memcg until the next run of zswap shrinking?
> > > >
> > > > If yes, I think it's probably worth doing. But why do we need to
> > > > release and reacquire the lock in the loop above?
> > >
> > > Yes, the existing cleaner might leave the offline, already-cleaned memcg.
> > >
> > > The reacquiring lock is to not loop inside the critical section.
> > > In shrink_worker of v0 patch, the loop was restarted on offline memcg
> > > without releasing the lock. Nhat pointed out that we should drop the
> > > lock after every mem_cgroup_iter() call. v1 was changed to reacquire
> > > once per iteration like the cleaner code above.
> >
> > I am not sure how often we'll run into a situation where we'll be
> > holding the lock for too long tbh. It should be unlikely to keep
> > encountering offline memcgs for a long time.
> >
> > Nhat, do you think this could cause a problem in practice?
> 
> I don't remember prescribing anything to be honest :) I think I was
> just asking why can't we just drop the lock, then "continue;". This is
> mostly for simplicity's sake.
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAKEwX=MwrRc43iM2050v5u-TPUK4Yn+a4G7+h6ieKhpQ7WtQ=A@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> But I think as Takero pointed out, it would still skip over the memcg
> that was (concurrently) updated to zswap_next_shrink by the memcg
> offline callback.

What's the issue with keep traversing until an online memcg is found?
Something like the following:


	spin_lock(&zswap_shrink_lock);
	do {
		zswap_next_shrink = mem_cgroup_iter(NULL, zswap_next_shrink, NULL);
	} while (zswap_next_shrink && !mem_cgroup_online(zswap_next_shrink));

	if (!zswap_next_shrink)
		zswap_next_shrink = mem_cgroup_iter(NULL, NULL, NULL);
	....

Is the concern that there can a lot of offlined memcgs which may cause
need resched warnings?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-13 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-08 15:53 [PATCH v1 0/3] mm: zswap: global shrinker fix and proactive shrink Takero Funaki
2024-06-08 15:53 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] mm: zswap: fix global shrinker memcg iteration Takero Funaki
2024-06-10 19:16   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-11 14:50     ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-11 18:26   ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-11 23:03     ` Shakeel Butt
2024-06-12 18:16     ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-12 18:28       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-13  2:13         ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-13  2:18           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-13  2:35             ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-13  2:57               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-13 15:04                 ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-13 16:49                   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2024-06-14  4:39                     ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-13 16:08   ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-13 16:09     ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-08 15:53 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] mm: zswap: fix global shrinker error handling logic Takero Funaki
2024-06-10 20:27   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-11 15:21     ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-11 15:51       ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-11 18:15     ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-08 15:53 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] mm: zswap: proactive shrinking before pool size limit is hit Takero Funaki
2024-06-13 15:13   ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-11 18:10 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] mm: zswap: global shrinker fix and proactive shrink Nhat Pham
2024-06-13 15:22 ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-14  4:09   ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-14 22:34     ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-14 22:48     ` Nhat Pham
2024-06-15  0:19     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-20  1:03       ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-20 22:45         ` Nhat Pham

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