From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] selftests: memcg: Increase error tolerance of child memory.current check in test_memcg_protection()
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 19:22:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pcxsack4hwio6ydm6r3e36bkwt6fg5i7vvarqs3fvuslswealj@bk2xi55vrdsn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250407162316.1434714-3-longman@redhat.com>
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On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 12:23:16PM -0400, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
> Child Actual usage Expected usage %err
> ----- ------------ -------------- ----
> 1 16990208 22020096 -12.9%
> 1 17252352 22020096 -12.1%
> 0 37699584 30408704 +10.7%
> 1 14368768 22020096 -21.0%
> 1 16871424 22020096 -13.2%
>
> The current 10% error tolerenace might be right at the time
> test_memcontrol.c was first introduced in v4.18 kernel, but memory
> reclaim have certainly evolved quite a bit since then which may result
> in a bit more run-to-run variation than previously expected.
I like Roman's suggestion of nr_cpus dependence but I assume your
variations were still on the same system, weren't they?
Is it fair to say that reclaim is chaotic [1]? I wonder what may cause
variations between separate runs of the test.
Would it help to `echo 3 >drop_caches` before each run to have more
stable initial conditions? (Not sure if it's OK in selftests.)
<del>Or sleep 0.5s to settle rstat flushing?</del> No, page_counter's
don't suffer that but stock MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH in percpu stocks.
So maybe drain the stock so that counters are precise after the test?
(Either by executing a dummy memcg on each CPU or via some debugging
API.)
Michal
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory#Chaotic_dynamics
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-07 16:23 [PATCH v5 0/2] memcg: Fix test_memcg_min/low test failures Waiman Long
2025-04-07 16:23 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] mm/vmscan: Skip memcg with !usage in shrink_node_memcgs() Waiman Long
2025-04-11 17:11 ` Michal Koutný
2025-04-11 21:13 ` Waiman Long
2025-04-07 16:23 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] selftests: memcg: Increase error tolerance of child memory.current check in test_memcg_protection() Waiman Long
2025-04-11 17:22 ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2025-04-11 21:42 ` Waiman Long
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