From: "Sorin Faibish" <sfaibish@emc.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:34:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.vbds27xqrwwil4@sfaibish1.corp.emc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271626236.27350.70.camel@mulgrave.site>
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:30:36 -0400, James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley@suse.de> wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 15:10 -0400, Sorin Faibish wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:32:39 -0400, Andrew Morton
>> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > There are two issues here: stack utilisation and poor IO patterns in
>> > direct reclaim. They are different.
>> >
>> > The poor IO patterns thing is a regression. Some time several years
>> > ago (around 2.6.16, perhaps), page reclaim started to do a LOT more
>> > dirty-page writeback than it used to. AFAIK nobody attempted to work
>> > out why, nor attempted to try to fix it.
>
>> I for one am looking very seriously at this problem together with Bruce.
>> We plan to have a discussion on this topic at the next LSF meeting
>> in Boston.
>
> As luck would have it, the Memory Management summit is co-located with
> the Storage and Filesystem workshop ... how about just planning to lock
> all the protagonists in a room if it's not solved by August. The less
> extreme might even like to propose topics for the plenary sessions ...
Let's work together to get this done. This is a very good idea. I will try
to bring some facts about the current state by instrumenting the kernel
to sample with higher time granularity the dirty pages dynamics. This will
allow us expose better the problem or lack of. :)
/Sorin
>
> James
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-18 23:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-13 0:17 Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 8:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 10:29 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 11:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 14:36 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14 3:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14 6:52 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 1:56 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14 6:52 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 7:36 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 11:19 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 19:34 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 20:20 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 1:40 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14 4:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 5:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14 5:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 6:13 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 7:19 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 9:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 10:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 10:07 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 10:16 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 7:06 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14 6:52 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 7:28 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 1:34 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 4:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 4:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: delegate pageout io to flusher thread if current is kswapd KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 8:05 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15 8:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 8:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15 17:24 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-20 2:56 ` Ying Han
2010-04-15 9:32 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 9:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 17:27 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15 23:33 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 23:41 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-16 9:50 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-17 3:06 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 8:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:31 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 11:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 4:13 ` [PATCH 2/4] vmscan: kill prev_priority completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 4:14 ` [PATCH 3/4] vmscan: move priority variable into scan_control KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 4:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: delegate page cleaning io to flusher thread if VM pressure is low KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 4:35 ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 6:32 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 6:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 6:58 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 6:20 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 6:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 8:54 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 10:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:23 ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: simplify shrink_inactive_list() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:15 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 15:01 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 15:44 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 16:54 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 23:40 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 14:57 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-17 2:37 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 14:55 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 18:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-04-16 9:39 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24 ` [PATCH 2/4] [cleanup] mm: introduce free_pages_prepare KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:33 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: introduce free_pages_bulk KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:46 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:26 ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: replace the pagevec in shrink_inactive_list() with list KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:28 ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 13:42 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-15 17:50 ` tytso
2010-04-16 15:05 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 15:15 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 17:38 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-16 4:14 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 15:14 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-18 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 16:31 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 19:11 ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 19:10 ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 21:30 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 23:34 ` Sorin Faibish [this message]
2010-04-19 3:08 ` tytso
2010-04-19 0:35 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19 0:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19 1:08 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19 4:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19 15:20 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-23 1:06 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-23 10:50 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 14:57 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 2:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15 2:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-16 23:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-14 6:52 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 10:06 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 11:20 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 12:15 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 12:32 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-14 12:34 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 13:23 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 14:07 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 0:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 4:44 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14 7:54 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-16 1:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-16 4:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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