From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Slats Grobnik <kannzas@excite.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] a simple OOM killer to save me from Netscape
Date: 13 Apr 2001 00:45:27 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1wv8pti0o.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Rik van Riel's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:25:00 -0300 (BRST)"
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br> writes:
>
> 1) you DO need to check to see if the system still has enough
> free pages
> 2) the cache size may be better expressed as some percentage
> of system memory ... it's still not good, but the 3 MB you
> chose is probably completely wrong for 90% of the systems
> out there ;)
>
> I believe Andrew Morton was also looking at making changes to the
> out_of_memory() function, but only to make sure the OOM killer
> isn't started to SOON. I guess we can work something out that will
> both kill soon enough *and* not too soon ;)
>
> Any suggestions for making Slats' ideas more generic so they work
> on every system ?
Well I don't see how thrashing is necessarily connected to oom
at all. You could have Gigs of swap not even touched and still
thrash.
I would suggest adding a user space app to kill ill behaved processes.
It can do all kinds of things like put netscape on it's hit list, have
a config file etc. But with a mlocked user space app killing ill behaved
processes, we can worry less about a kernel oom. (Yes the user space
app would need to be static and probably not depend on glibc at all
since it is such a pig, but that shouldn't be a real issue).
The kernel should always wait until it is certain we are out of
memory. This should give a user space app plenty of time to react.
Eric
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-13 6:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-12 16:58 Slats Grobnik
2001-04-12 18:25 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-12 18:49 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-13 6:45 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2001-04-13 16:20 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-14 1:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-04-16 21:06 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-16 21:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-16 22:12 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-16 22:21 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-17 14:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-17 19:53 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-17 20:44 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-17 20:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-17 21:09 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-14 7:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-04-15 5:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-15 5:20 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-16 11:52 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-16 12:17 ` suspend processes at load (was Re: a simple OOM ...) Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-17 19:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-18 21:32 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-18 20:38 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-18 23:25 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-18 22:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-19 10:14 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-04-19 13:23 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-19 2:11 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-19 7:08 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 13:37 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-19 12:26 ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-19 12:30 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 9:15 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 18:34 ` Dave McCracken
2001-04-19 18:47 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 18:53 ` Dave McCracken
2001-04-19 19:10 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-20 14:58 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-21 6:10 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 19:13 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-19 19:47 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2001-04-20 12:44 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-19 20:06 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-20 12:29 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-20 11:50 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-20 13:32 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-20 14:30 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-22 10:21 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-20 12:25 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-21 6:08 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-20 12:18 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-22 10:19 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-17 10:58 ` limit for number of processes Uman
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