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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Richard F Weber <rfweber@link.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: About reading /proc/*/mem
Date: 01 May 2001 09:27:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1oftdozsi.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: "Richard F Weber"'s message of "Tue, 01 May 2001 09:33:22 -0400"

"Richard F Weber" <rfweber@link.com> writes:

> Ok, so as a rehash, the ptrace & open(),lseek() on /proc/*/mem should 
> both work about the same.  After a lot of struggling, I've gotten the 
> ptrace to work right & spit out the data I want/need.  However there is 
> one small problem, SIGSTOP.
> 
> ptrace() appears to set up the child process to do a SIGSTOP whenever 
> any interrupt is received.  Which is kind of a bad thing for what I'm 
> looking to do.  I guess I'm trying to write a non-intrusive debugger 
> that can be used to view static variables stored in the heap of an 
> application.
> 
> On other OS's, this can be done just by popping open /proc/*/mem, and 
> reading the data as needed, allowing the child process to continue 
> processing away as if nothing is going on.  I'm looking to do the same 
> sort of task under Linux. 
> 
> Unfortunately, ptrace() probobally isn't going to allow me to do that.  
> So my next question is does opening /proc/*/mem force the child process 
> to stop on every interrupt (just like ptrace?)


The not stopping the child should be the major difference between
/proc/*/mem and ptrace.


> Second, I would imagine opening /dev/mem (or /proc/kcore) would get me 
> into the physical memory of the system itself.  How would I know what 
> the starting physical memory addresses of a processes data is to start at:

You don't even want to go there.  You've got the wrong model in your head.

> 0x08049000-0x804a000 are mapped to the physical address of 0x718368.  
Nope 0x718368 is the inode of an on-disk file.

> However Going to this address, and then doing an lseek(SEEK_CUR)out to 
> my expected variable offset doesn't get me the result I'm expecting.  Is 
> the 0x718368 the right location to be looking at, or is there some 
> translation that needs to get done (* by page size, translate into 
> hex/from hex, etc.) I can't find any documentation indicating what each 
> column represents so it's just a stab on my part.

man proc or reading the source works.

> Thanks for the good information so far.
> 
> --Rich
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-01 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-01 13:33 Richard F Weber
2001-05-01 15:27 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2001-05-01 16:35   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-01 17:03     ` Richard F Weber
2001-05-01 17:14       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-02 10:25     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02 11:39     ` Richard F Weber
2001-05-03 17:51       ` Richard F Weber
2001-05-01 16:53   ` Richard F Weber
2001-05-01 17:09     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-01 17:29       ` Richard F Weber

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