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From: ebiederm+eric@npwt.net (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Dean Gaudet <dgaudet-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm+eric@npwt.net>,
	Richard Gooch <Richard.Gooch@atnf.CSIRO.AU>,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Thread implementations...
Date: 24 Jun 1998 23:56:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1n2b23wqr.fsf@flinx.npwt.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Dean Gaudet's message of Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:12:59 -0700 (PDT)

>>>>> "DG" == Dean Gaudet <dgaudet-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org> writes:

DG> On 24 Jun 1998, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

>> >>>>> "RG" == Richard Gooch <Richard.Gooch@atnf.CSIRO.AU> writes:
>> 
RG> If we get madvise(2) right, we don't need sendfile(2), correct?
>> 
>> It looks like it from here.  As far as madvise goes, I think we need
>> to implement madvise(2) as:

DG> ... note that mmap() requires a bunch of kernel structures set up to map
DG> things into the program's memory space... when in reality the program
DG> doesn't care at all about the bytes.  (And then there's process address
DG> space limitations...)  sendfile() and such don't have these problems, and
DG> it may be far more simple to implement sendfile() than it would be to put
DG> all the hints and such into the mm layer to get mmap() performance up to
DG> the same level. 

mmap, madvise(SEQUENTIAL),write 
is easy to implement.  The mmap layer already does readahead, all we
do is tell it not to be so conservative.

Meanwhile to write sendfile, you need to do all of the same work
(except the page tables) without an interface to do it with.
madvise looks simpler from here.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-06-25  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <199806240915.TAA09504@vindaloo.atnf.CSIRO.AU>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.96dg4.980624025515.26983E-100000@twinlark.arctic.org>
     [not found]   ` <199806241213.WAA10661@vindaloo.atnf.CSIRO.AU>
1998-06-24 22:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-06-24 23:41       ` Richard Gooch
1998-06-25  4:45         ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-06-25 17:14           ` Todd Larason
1998-06-26  7:53           ` Christoph Rohland
1998-06-26 14:16             ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-06-29 10:19               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-06-30  6:19                 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-06-30 13:10                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-06-30 19:35                     ` Dean Gaudet
1998-07-01  9:09                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-06-25  4:12       ` Dean Gaudet
1998-06-25  3:53         ` Richard Gooch
1998-06-25 11:32           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-06-25 21:24             ` Chris Wedgwood
1998-06-25 22:16             ` Richard Gooch
1998-06-25  4:56         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
1998-06-25 11:35           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-06-25 20:31             ` Dean Gaudet
1998-06-30  6:40             ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-06-30 19:30 Larry McVoy
1998-07-01  8:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-03 15:21   ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-03 20:05     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-03 20:36       ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-04 16:37         ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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