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* I've got some patches to integrate...
@ 1998-04-15  3:22 Eric W. Biederman
  1998-04-15 15:11 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eric W. Biederman @ 1998-04-15  3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-mm

Currently I have been working in two tracks.

1) Adding dirty page support to the page cache.
   I had some preliminary discussions with Stephen Tweedie
2) Creating a proof of concept filesystem that uses dirty pages in the
   page cache, resides in swap, and is should be good for usage a
   Posix shared memory.

I believe I have found the last of my bugs, and it is now time to
start integrating my work with the developmental kernel.  I have heard
that there is a feature freeze in place so my timing is horrible!

My patches are:
1. A patch to page_io.c that allows:
a) reading of swap pages directly into the page cache, with rw_swap_page_nocache
b) gives rw_swap_page_nocache a wait parameter.  So it can do asynchronous operations.
c) uses brw_page directly for reading both swap partitions, and swap files,
   making life more uniform, allowing async operations on swap file etc.

2. A patch to swapfile.c.
  The problem is that sys_swapoff assumes all swap pages are in mapped
  into processs.  This is not necessarily true now with SYSV shared
  memory.  And when my filesystem that resides in swap is mounted is
  very definentily not true.

  The solution I have implemented is a some registration functions that
  maintain a linked list, so other parts of the kernel that use swap
  through rw_swap_page_nocache can have a chance to remove their pages
  from swap when swapoff is called.

3. A patch to filemap.c to that pages marked with a special dirty bit 
   are written out in shrink_mmap.
   This doesn't perform too well with the new memory allocator, that
   trys to keep lots of contigous memory.  It pushes the swapping
   heavily case which is not yet handled very well.
   On linux-2.0.32 it blasts writes through the page cache quite well.

Anyhow I thought I'd bounce off what I had off this list and see what
people thought of my ideas.  I started checking with Stepen Tweedie to
see if he maintained the swap code and if I should send patches to
him, or Linus.  And he said it should bounce what I have off of this
list, and to start talks about integrating it.

This is the end of the semester for me so I really won't have much time
for at least two weeks :(  My patches exist but need breaking up.
Right now I just have one huge patch glob against 2.1.92 after I got
everything working.

Eric

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* Re: I've got some patches to integrate...
  1998-04-15  3:22 I've got some patches to integrate Eric W. Biederman
@ 1998-04-15 15:11 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
  1998-04-15 17:58   ` Eric W. Biederman
  1998-04-20 21:55   ` I've got some patches to integrate, too Stephen C. Tweedie
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin C.R. LaHaise @ 1998-04-15 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric W. Biederman; +Cc: linux-mm

Hello Eric,

On 14 Apr 1998, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
...
> Anyhow I thought I'd bounce off what I had off this list and see what
> people thought of my ideas.  I started checking with Stepen Tweedie to
> see if he maintained the swap code and if I should send patches to
> him, or Linus.  And he said it should bounce what I have off of this
> list, and to start talks about integrating it.
...

Hmmm, before I make any silly mumblings, would you mind [re]sending a copy
of your patch to linux-mm?  (I've misplaced the copy I had, and linuxhq's
kernel archive isn't searchable right now.)  Linus probably won't want to
integrate them for 2.2, but perhaps we can start maintaining a set of
patches reasonably 'in sync' until 2.3 when they could be integrated. 
Hopefully that way they we can get people to provide a reasonable amount
of testing to the code. 

Which reminds me: Stephen, what's the state of your irq and smp patches
for page cache addition/removal.  I'm getting a bit more free time now, so
perhaps I can play with them a bit (maybe we should have a common cvs
tree...).

		-ben

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread

* Re: I've got some patches to integrate...
  1998-04-15 15:11 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
@ 1998-04-15 17:58   ` Eric W. Biederman
  1998-04-20 21:55   ` I've got some patches to integrate, too Stephen C. Tweedie
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eric W. Biederman @ 1998-04-15 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin C.R. LaHaise; +Cc: Eric W. Biederman, linux-mm

>>>>> "BLH" == Benjamin C R LaHaise <blah@kvack.org> writes:

BLH> Hello Eric,
BLH> On 14 Apr 1998, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
BLH> ...
>> Anyhow I thought I'd bounce off what I had off this list and see what
>> people thought of my ideas.  I started checking with Stepen Tweedie to
>> see if he maintained the swap code and if I should send patches to
>> him, or Linus.  And he said it should bounce what I have off of this
>> list, and to start talks about integrating it.
BLH> ...

BLH> Hmmm, before I make any silly mumblings, would you mind [re]sending a copy
BLH> of your patch to linux-mm? 

Sending is right.  

My filesytem code which also holds the patch is at:
http://www.npwt.net/~ebiederm/files/shmfs-0.1.008.tar.gz

I'm including a copy of my most recent patch against 2.1.92 at the end
for completeness.  Sorry it started out as a question who to....

Anyhow silly mumblings will be appreciated. :)

BLH> Linus probably won't want to
BLH> integrate them for 2.2, but perhaps we can start maintaining a set of
BLH> patches reasonably 'in sync' until 2.3 when they could be integrated. 
BLH> Hopefully that way they we can get people to provide a reasonable amount
BLH> of testing to the code. 

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* I've got some patches to integrate, too...
  1998-04-15 15:11 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
  1998-04-15 17:58   ` Eric W. Biederman
@ 1998-04-20 21:55   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stephen C. Tweedie @ 1998-04-20 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin C.R. LaHaise; +Cc: Eric W. Biederman, linux-mm

Hi,

On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:11:07 -0400 (EDT), "Benjamin C.R. LaHaise"
<blah@kvack.org> said:

> Which reminds me: Stephen, what's the state of your irq and smp patches
> for page cache addition/removal.  I'm getting a bit more free time now, so
> perhaps I can play with them a bit (maybe we should have a common cvs
> tree...).

Sorry, I've been offline, away in Colorado, for over a week, or I'd
have answered this earlier...

The deferred pageout stuff (lazy page stealing) seems to work pretty
well.  It is rock solid when doing large compiles on a 6mb box, which
stresses swapping pretty heavily.  However, there is still a bug --- I
can reproduce a copy-on-write violation occasionally when running one
of my VM stress tests (I get a demand-zero page when I expect a
non-zero value, so there's a pte getting lost in there somewhere).
That's the only failure mode I can reproduce right now.

Right now I've got Linux Expo and Usenix deadlines approaching fast,
so there's a limit to how much time I can spend debugging code which
is not going to be integrated until 2.3.  I can't promise to get the
lazy page code debugged in the next couple of weeks.  With the feature
freeze in place, I guess there's a big question mark over whether this
code can get included in 2.2.  If it doesn't, then what we really need
to concentrate on is the memory fragmentation issues in 2.1, not the
new 2.2 features.

I spent a lot of time last week thinking about this, and there are a
number of things we can do in 2.1 which will help enormously.  I'll
write them up in a day or two (right now I'm still catching up my mail
backlog).  We can definitely improve things without making major
wholesale changes to the way VM works at the minute, even if it's not
going to give us quite the performance or power that the really new
code promises.

I guess that Linus really has to make the call whether or not we risk
destabilising the existing VM by adding the new code now, or whether
that is a 2.3 issue.  If it is a 2.3 thing, then 2.2 has more urgent
problems which need addressing as a higher priority than adding new
functionality.  We can still track the new VM code, but as a separate
branch which won't be integrated until 2.3 development starts (much
like the new net code which was integrated at the start of 1.3
development).

--Stephen

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