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From: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: pmarques@grupopie.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] per thread page reservation patch
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 01:12:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1d5wgrir7.fsf@clusterfs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050107132459.033adc9f.akpm@osdl.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:24:59 -0800")

Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:

[...]

>
> Maybe I'm being thick, but I don't see how you can protect the reservation
> of an outer reserver in the above way:
>
> 	perthread_pages_reserve(10);
> 	...				/* current->private_pages_count = 10 */
> 		perthread_pages_reserve(10)	/* private_pages_count = 20 */
> 		use 5 pages			/* private_pages_count = 15 */
> 		perthread_pages_release(5);
>
> But how does the caller come up with the final "5"?

	wasreserved = perthread_pages_count();
	result = perthread_pages_reserve(estimate_reserve(), GFP_KERNEL);
	if (result != 0)
		return result;

    /* do something that consumes reservation */

	perthread_pages_release(perthread_pages_count() - wasreserved);

>
> Seems better to me if prethread_pages_reserve() were to return the initial
> value of private_pages_count, so the caller can do:
>
> 	old = perthread_pages_reserve(10);
> 		use 5 pages
> 	perthread_pages_release(old);
>
> or whatever.
>
> That kinda stinks too in a way, because both the outer and the inner
> callers need to overallocate pages on behalf of the worst case user in some
> deep call stack.
>
> And the whole idea is pretty flaky really - how can one precalculate how
> much memory an arbitrary md-on-dm-on-loop-on-md-on-NBD stack will want to
> use?  It really would be better if we could drop the whole patch and make
> reiser4 behave more sanely when its writepage is called with for_reclaim=1.

Reiser4 doesn't use this for ->writepage(), by the way. This is used by
tree balancing code to assure that balancing cannot get -ENOMEM in the
middle of tree modification, because undo is _so_ very complicated.

Nikita.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-07 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20050103011113.6f6c8f44.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found] ` <20050103114854.GA18408@infradead.org>
     [not found]   ` <41DC2386.9010701@namesys.com>
     [not found]     ` <1105019521.7074.79.camel@tribesman.namesys.com>
     [not found]       ` <20050107144644.GA9606@infradead.org>
2005-01-07 17:16         ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-01-07 18:48           ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-07 20:21             ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 19:05           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 19:12             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 19:21             ` Robert Love
2005-01-07 20:48             ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 20:54               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 21:00                 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 21:07                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 19:14           ` Paulo Marques
2005-01-07 19:32             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 19:42               ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-07 20:55             ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 21:24               ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-07 21:24                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-07 22:12                 ` Nikita Danilov [this message]
2005-01-07 23:03                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-07 23:17                     ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 23:43                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-08 12:44                         ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-08 13:43                           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-01-09 11:35                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-09 18:16                           ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-25 16:39                 ` reiser4 core patches: [Was: [RFC] per thread page reservation patch] Vladimir Saveliev
2005-01-27 10:37                   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-27 11:01                   ` Christoph Hellwig

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