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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
	Dave McCracken <dmccr@us.ibm.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.5.43-mm2] New shared page table patch
Date: 21 Oct 2002 21:54:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17kgbuo0i.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2577017645.1035188509@[10.10.2.3]>

"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com> writes:

> >> In many cases, this will stop the box from falling over flat on it's 
> >> face due to ZONE_NORMAL exhaustion (from pte-chains), or even total
> >> RAM exhaustion (from PTEs). Thus the performance gain is infinite ;-)
> > 
> > So why has no one written a pte_chain reaper?  It is perfectly sane
> > to allocate a swap entry and move an entire pte_chain to the swap
> > cache.  
> 
> I think the underlying subsystem does not easily allow for dynamic regeneration,
> so it's non-trivial. 

We swap pages out all of the time in 2.4.x, and that is all I was suggesting 
swap out some but not all of the pages, on a very long pte_chain.  And swapping
out a page is not terribly complex, unless something very drastic has changed.

> wli was looking at doing pagetable reclaim at some point,
> IIRC.
> 
> 
> IMHO, it's better not to fill memory with crap in the first place than
> to invent complex methods of managing and shrinking it afterwards. You
> only get into pathalogical conditions under sharing situation, else 
> it's limited to about 1% of RAM (bad, but manageable) ... thus providing
> this sort of sharing nixes the worst of it. Better cache warmth on 
> switches (for TLB misses), faster fork+exec, etc. are nice side-effects.

I will agree with that if everything works so the sharing happens,
this is a nice feature.

> The ultimate solution is per-object reverse mappings, rather than per
> page, but that's a 2.7 thingy now.
???

Last I checked we already had those in 2.4.x, and still in 2.5.x.  The
list of place the address space is mapped.

Eric

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-22  3:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-18 23:06 Dave McCracken
2002-10-19  1:32 ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-10-19 19:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-19 19:36   ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-20  4:20     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-20  6:18   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-21 14:55     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-21 15:21       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22  3:54         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-10-22  5:55           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 16:09             ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-22 16:14               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 18:06                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-22 19:02                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 19:21                     ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-24 10:50                       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-24 14:22                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-24 14:38                           ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-24 14:51                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-25 17:31                           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-24 10:42                     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-22 17:19               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 17:36                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 17:45                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 17:56                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 18:01                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:03                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 20:23                           ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 21:33                             ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 18:22                     ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 18:47                       ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 18:55                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:27                           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 19:29                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:56                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-10-22 14:26           ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-22 17:09             ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 17:15               ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-22 18:36                 ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-22 18:49                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 19:06                     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 19:29                       ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-22 19:11                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-10-22 19:29                     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 18:45               ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 17:54             ` Bill Davidsen

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