From: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH slab/for-next-fixes] mm/slab: allow sheaf refill if blocking is not allowed
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 09:39:28 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <le2aabnh7doxt3zo3l2l35urng4kdxeacttv3qyefabzpv32pl@qs3e2yemq7sa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3952b84e-9342-4628-9778-92ae155e9727@kernel.org>
On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 11:14:51AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 3/4/26 8:44 AM, Hao Li wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 10:55:37AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> >> @@ -4632,11 +4631,8 @@ __pcs_replace_empty_main(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slub_percpu_sheaves *pcs,
> >> if (!full)
> >> return NULL;
> >>
> >> - /*
> >> - * we can reach here only when gfpflags_allow_blocking
> >> - * so this must not be an irq
> >> - */
> >> - local_lock(&s->cpu_sheaves->lock);
> >> + if (!local_trylock(&s->cpu_sheaves->lock))
> >> + goto barn_put;
> >
> > A quick question to make sure I understand this correctly.
> >
> > My understanding is that after this patch, there is now a new case where
> > allocations with __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM set (e.g GFP_ATOMIC) can also reach this
> > lock-reacquire path.
> >
> > If we were to keep using local_lock here:
> >
> > 1. On non-RT kernels it seems fine, since alloc_from_pcs() already does a
> > local_trylock(&s->cpu_sheaves->lock) check.
> >
> > 2. But on PREEMPT_RT, local_lock could potentially schedule away, which may add
> > latency. So the idea of using local_trylock here is to fail fast and return
> > without incurring that latency - is that the intent behind this change?
>
> Great question, thanks!
>
> So the main intent is that lockdep would complain if it saw this
> local_lock() happening in e.g. an irq handler. It doesn't know that it's
> safe from deadlocks because we already succeeded a trylock before and
> thus the irq handler didn't interrupt anyone holding the lock.
>
> Trying to teach lockdep such things leads to the complicated initial
> design of kmalloc_nolock() before it could be simplified by sheaves.
Oh, yes - I hadn't considered the impact of lockdep. This is a good point!
>
> On !RT it makes no difference as the trylock will succeed always. On RT
> it may not, but indeed they may prefer avoiding the latency as you say.
Yes, make sense, thanks!
--
Thanks,
Hao
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-05 1:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-02 9:55 Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-04 3:05 ` Harry Yoo
2026-03-04 9:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-03-04 10:03 ` Harry Yoo
2026-03-04 7:44 ` Hao Li
2026-03-04 10:14 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-05 1:39 ` Hao Li [this message]
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