From: "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@pankajraghav.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
mcgrof@kernel.org, gost.dev@samsung.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, kbusch@kernel.org,
chandan.babu@oracle.com, p.raghav@samsung.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hare@suse.de, linux-mm@kvack.org,
david@fromorbit.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 01/14] fs: Allow fine-grained control of folio sizes
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 11:34:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <l4ios6fmq4dpdncqjp3ukgnbahwuyu5pa5ntocj72qpxmnxlnv@awcgkr4fesoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zc0NtZrnHIXrZy53@casper.infradead.org>
> > > Maybe I should have been explicit. We are planning to add support
> > > for min order in the first round, and we want to add support for max order
> > > once the min order support is upstreamed. It was done mainly to reduce
> > > the scope and testing of this series.
> > >
> > > I definitely agree there are usecases for setting the max order. It is
> > > also the feedback we got from LPC.
> > >
> > > So one idea would be not to expose max option until we add the support
> > > for max order? So filesystems can only set the min_order with the
> > > initial support?
> >
> > Yeah, there's really no point in having an argument that's deliberately
> > ignored.
>
> I favour introducing the right APIs even if they're not fully implemented.
> We have no filesystems today that need this, so it doesn't need to
> be implemented, but if we have to go back and add it, it's more churn
> for every filesystem. I'm open to better ideas about the API; I think
> for a lot of filesystems they only want to set the minimum, so maybe
> introducing that API now would be a good thing.
I will introduce a new API that only exposes the min order for now. I
agree with you that I don't see a lot of filesystems other than XFS
using this in the near future.
We deduce min order based on the filesystem blocksize but we don't have any
mechanisms in place from userspace to set the max order for a filesystem.
So that also needs to be thought through and discussed with the
community.
I hope to start working on max_order immediately after upstreaming the
min_order feature.
--
Pankaj
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-15 10:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-13 9:36 [RFC v2 00/14] enable bs > ps in XFS Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 01/14] fs: Allow fine-grained control of folio sizes Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 12:03 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 16:34 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 21:05 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 21:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-14 19:00 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-15 10:34 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) [this message]
2024-02-14 18:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-15 10:21 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 02/14] filemap: align the index to mapping_min_order in the page cache Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 12:20 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 21:13 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 22:00 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 03/14] filemap: use mapping_min_order while allocating folios Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 14:58 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 16:38 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 22:05 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-14 10:13 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 04/14] readahead: set file_ra_state->ra_pages to be at least mapping_min_order Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 14:59 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 16:46 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 22:09 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-14 13:32 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-14 13:53 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 05/14] readahead: align index to mapping_min_order in ondemand_ra and force_ra Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 15:00 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 16:46 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 22:29 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-14 15:10 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 06/14] readahead: rework loop in page_cache_ra_unbounded() Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 16:47 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 07/14] readahead: allocate folios with mapping_min_order in ra_(unbounded|order) Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 15:01 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 16:47 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 08/14] mm: do not split a folio if it has minimum folio order requirement Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 15:02 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 09/14] mm: Support order-1 folios in the page cache Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 15:03 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 10/14] iomap: fix iomap_dio_zero() for fs bs > system page size Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 15:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-13 16:30 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 21:27 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 21:30 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-14 15:13 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 11/14] xfs: expose block size in stat Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 16:27 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 21:32 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 12/14] xfs: make the calculation generic in xfs_sb_validate_fsb_count() Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 16:26 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 21:48 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 22:44 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-14 15:51 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 13/14] xfs: add an experimental CONFIG_XFS_LBS option Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 16:39 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-13 21:19 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-13 21:54 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 22:45 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [RFC v2 14/14] xfs: enable block size larger than page size support Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 16:20 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-14 16:40 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 21:34 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-14 16:35 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-15 22:17 ` Dave Chinner
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