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From: Jonathan Morton <chromi@cyberspace.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>,
	Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>,
	Charles Randall <crandall@matchlogic.com>,
	Roger Larsson <roger.larsson@norran.net>,
	arch@FreeBSD.ORG, linux-mm@kvack.org, sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu
Subject: Re: on load control / process swapping
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 03:56:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <l03130300b72b8fd29b5b@[192.168.239.105]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105182315430.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>

>> FWIW, I've been running with a 2-line hack in my kernel for some weeks
>> now, which essentially forces the RSS of each process not to be forced
>> below some arbitrary "fair share" of the physical memory available.
>> It's not a very clean hack, but it improves performance by a very
>> large margin under a thrashing load.  The only problem I'm seeing is a
>> deadlock when I run out of VM completely, but I think that's a
>> separate issue that others are already working on.
>
>I'm pretty sure I know what you're running into.
>
>Say you guarantee a minimum of 3% of memory for each process;
>now when you have 30 processes running your memory is full and
>you cannot reclaim any pages when one of the processes runs
>into a page fault.

Actually I already thought of that one, and made it a "fair share" of the
system rather than a fixed amount.  IOW, the guaranteed amount is something
like (total_memory / nr_processes).  I think I was even sane enough to
lower this value slightly to allow for some buffer/cache memory, but I
didn't allow for locked pages (including the kernel itself).

The deadlock happened when the swap ran out, not the physical RAM, and is
independent of this particular hack - remember I'm running with some
out_of_memory() fixes and some other hackery I did a month or so ago
(remember that massive "OOM killer" thread?).  I should try to figure those
out and present cleaned-up versions for further perusal...

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-19  2:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-16 15:17 Charles Randall
2001-05-16 17:14 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-16 17:41   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-16 17:54     ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-16 19:59       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-16 20:41         ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-18  5:58       ` Terry Lambert
2001-05-18  6:20         ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-18 10:00           ` Andrew Reilly
2001-05-18 13:49           ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-19  2:18             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-19  2:56               ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2001-05-16 17:57     ` Alfred Perlstein
2001-05-16 18:01       ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-16 18:10         ` Alfred Perlstein
     [not found] <OF5A705983.9566DA96-ON86256A50.00630512@hou.us.ray.com>
2001-05-18 20:13 ` Jonathan Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-05-07 21:16 Rik van Riel
2001-05-07 22:50 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-07 23:35   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-08  0:56     ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-12 14:23       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-12 17:21         ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-12 21:17           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-12 23:58         ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-13 17:22           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-15  6:38             ` Terry Lambert
2001-05-15 13:39               ` Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group
2001-05-15 15:31               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-15 17:24               ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-15 23:55                 ` Roger Larsson
2001-05-16  0:16                   ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-16  8:23                 ` Terry Lambert
2001-05-16 17:26                   ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-08 20:52   ` Kirk McKusick
2001-05-09  0:18     ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-09  2:07       ` Peter Jeremy
2001-05-09 19:41         ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-12 14:28       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-08 12:25 ` Scott F. Kaplan

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