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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] mm/vmscan: Skip memcg with !usage in shrink_node_memcgs()
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 14:42:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kwvo4y6xjojvjf47pzv3uk545c2xewkl36ddpgwznctunoqvkx@lpqzxszmmkmj> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250414021249.3232315-2-longman@redhat.com>

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On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 10:12:48PM -0400, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
> 2) memory.low is set to a non-zero value but the cgroup has no task in
>    it so that it has an effective low value of 0. Again it may have a
>    non-zero low event count if memory reclaim happens. This is probably
>    not a result expected by the users and it is really doubtful that
>    users will check an empty cgroup with no task in it and expecting
>    some non-zero event counts.

I think you want to distinguish "no tasks" vs "no usage" in this
paragraph.


> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -5963,6 +5963,10 @@ static void shrink_node_memcgs(pg_data_t *pgdat, struct scan_control *sc)
>  
>  		mem_cgroup_calculate_protection(target_memcg, memcg);
>  
> +		/* Skip memcg with no usage */
> +		if (!mem_cgroup_usage(memcg, false))
> +			continue;
> +
>  		if (mem_cgroup_below_min(target_memcg, memcg)) {

As I think more about this -- the idea expressed by the diff makes
sense. But is it really a change?
For non-root memcgs, they'll be skipped because 0 >= 0 (in
mem_cgroup_below_min()) and root memcg would hardly be skipped.


> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/cgroup/test_memcontrol.c
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/cgroup/test_memcontrol.c
> @@ -380,10 +380,10 @@ static bool reclaim_until(const char *memcg, long goal);
>   *
>   * Then it checks actual memory usages and expects that:
>   * A/B    memory.current ~= 50M
> - * A/B/C  memory.current ~= 29M
> - * A/B/D  memory.current ~= 21M
> - * A/B/E  memory.current ~= 0
> - * A/B/F  memory.current  = 0
> + * A/B/C  memory.current ~= 29M [memory.events:low > 0]
> + * A/B/D  memory.current ~= 21M [memory.events:low > 0]
> + * A/B/E  memory.current ~= 0   [memory.events:low == 0 if !memory_recursiveprot, > 0 otherwise]

Please note the subtlety in my suggestion -- I want the test with
memory_recursiveprot _not_ to check events count at all. Because:
	a) it forces single interpretation of low events wrt effective
	   low limit 
	b) effective low limit should still be 0 in E in this testcase
	   (there should be no unclaimed protection of C and D).

> + * A/B/F  memory.current  = 0   [memory.events:low == 0]


Thanks,
Michal

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-14 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-14  2:12 [PATCH v6 0/2] memcg: Fix test_memcg_min/low test failures Waiman Long
2025-04-14  2:12 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] mm/vmscan: Skip memcg with !usage in shrink_node_memcgs() Waiman Long
2025-04-14 12:42   ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2025-04-14 13:15     ` Waiman Long
2025-04-14 13:55       ` Michal Koutný
2025-04-14 16:47         ` Johannes Weiner
2025-04-14 18:01           ` Michal Koutný
2025-04-14 18:10             ` Johannes Weiner
2025-04-14 18:57               ` Waiman Long
2025-04-14  2:12 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] selftests: memcg: Increase error tolerance of child memory.current check in test_memcg_protection() Waiman Long

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