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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Boris Burkov <boris@bur.io>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com, wqu@suse.com,  willy@infradead.org,
	mhocko@kernel.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	 roman.gushchin@linux.dev, hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/filemap: add AS_KERNEL_FILE
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 15:25:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kagqatguxrcxsb7ka3vq5xfm2vbjly7ixletkxwbyyq2uisnly@frthso35okfd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f09c4e2c90351d4cb30a1969f7a863b9238bd291.1755812945.git.boris@bur.io>

On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 02:55:35PM -0700, Boris Burkov wrote:
> Btrfs currently tracks its metadata pages in the page cache, using a
> fake inode (fs_info->btree_inode) with offsets corresponding to where
> the metadata is stored in the filesystem's full logical address space.
> 
> A consequence of this is that when btrfs uses filemap_add_folio(), this
> usage is charged to the cgroup of whichever task happens to be running
> at the time. These folios don't belong to any particular user cgroup, so
> I don't think it makes much sense for them to be charged in that way.
> Some negative consequences as a result:
> - A task can be holding some important btrfs locks, then need to lookup
>   some metadata and go into reclaim, extending the duration it holds
>   that lock for, and unfairly pushing its own reclaim pain onto other
>   cgroups.
> - If that cgroup goes into reclaim, it might reclaim these folios a
>   different non-reclaiming cgroup might need soon. This is naturally
>   offset by LRU reclaim, but still.
> 
> We have two options for how to manage such file pages:
> 1. charge them to the root cgroup.
> 2. don't charge them to any cgroup at all.
> 
> 2. breaks the invariant that every mapped page has a cgroup. This is
> workable, but unnecessarily risky. Therefore, go with 1.
> 
> A very similar proposal to use the root cgroup was previously made by
> Qu, where he eventually proposed the idea of setting it per
> address_space. This makes good sense for the btrfs use case, as the
> behavior should apply to all use of the address_space, not select
> allocations. I.e., if someone adds another filemap_add_folio() call
> using btrfs's btree_inode, we would almost certainly want to account
> that to the root cgroup as well.
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/b5fef5372ae454a7b6da4f2f75c427aeab6a07d6.1727498749.git.wqu@suse.com/
> Suggested-by: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
> Suggested-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> Tested-by: syzbot@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
> Signed-off-by: Boris Burkov <boris@bur.io>

Acked-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-21 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-21 21:55 [PATCH v4 0/3] introduce kernel file mapped folios Boris Burkov
2025-08-21 21:55 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/filemap: add AS_KERNEL_FILE Boris Burkov
2025-08-21 22:25   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-08-21 22:51   ` [PATCH] mm: fix CONFIG_MEMCG build for AS_KERNEL_FILE Boris Burkov
2025-08-22 13:46   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/filemap: add AS_KERNEL_FILE kernel test robot
2025-08-21 21:55 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: add vmstat for kernel_file pages Boris Burkov
2025-08-21 21:55 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] btrfs: set AS_KERNEL_FILE on the btree_inode Boris Burkov
2025-08-27 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] introduce kernel file mapped folios Shakeel Butt
2025-08-29  1:52 ` David Sterba

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