From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
jack@suse.cz, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:10:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jf6dh7icf4vt4dgt4o2h6xvvdlyjewa5wmtn6brumh2tqzlrts@lb7xxthxh7uc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ut5zfyvpkigjqev43kttxhxmpgnbkfs4vdqhe4dpxr6wnsx6ct@qmrazzu3fxyx>
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 04:44:01PM GMT, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> No, I explained why GFP_NORECLAIM/PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM can absolutely
> apply to a context, not a callsite, and why vmalloc() and kvmalloc()
> ignoring gfp flags is a much more serious issue.
>
> If you want to do something useful, figure out what we're going to do
> about _that_. If you really don't want PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM to exist,
> then see if Linus will let you plumb gfp flags down to pte allocation -
> and beware, that's arch code that you'll have to fix.
>
> Reminder: kvmalloc() is a thing, and it's steadily seeing wider use.
>
> Otherwise, PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM needs to stay; and thank you for
> bringing this to my attention, because it's made me realize all the
> other places in bcachefs that use gfp flags for allocating memory with
> btree locks held need to be switch to memalloc_flags_do().
Additionally: plumbing gfp flags to pte allocation is something we do
need to do. I proposed it before kvmalloc() was a thing, but now it's
become much more of a lurking landmine.
Even with that I'd still be against this series, though. GFP_NOFAIL
interacting badly with other gfp/memalloc flags is going to continue to
be an issue, and I think the only answer to that is stricter runtime
checks (which, thank you mm guys for adding recently).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-26 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-26 8:47 [PATCH 0/2] get rid of PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 8:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 13:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 16:48 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 19:39 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 19:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 19:42 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 19:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 19:54 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 19:44 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 19:58 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 20:00 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 20:27 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 20:43 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 21:10 ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2024-08-27 6:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-27 6:40 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-27 6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-27 7:05 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-27 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 19:52 ` kernel test robot
2024-08-26 20:53 ` kernel test robot
2024-08-27 2:23 ` kernel test robot
2024-08-27 6:15 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] " Michal Hocko
2024-08-27 12:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-28 4:09 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-29 10:02 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-29 13:12 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-29 13:22 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-29 13:32 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-29 14:03 ` Yafang Shao
2024-09-02 0:23 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-02 1:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-09-02 8:41 ` Michal Hocko
2024-09-02 8:52 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-09-02 9:39 ` Michal Hocko
2024-09-02 9:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-09-02 14:07 ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-09-04 18:01 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-20 20:34 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 21:12 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-20 21:20 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 21:37 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-20 22:21 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-20 22:39 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 22:55 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 23:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 23:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-20 23:57 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 0:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 4:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-21 4:53 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 23:53 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-22 6:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-22 12:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-21 21:32 ` Martin Steigerwald
2024-11-22 9:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-21 5:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 8:43 ` review process (was: underalated stuff) Michal Hocko
2024-11-21 9:03 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 20:17 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Simona Vetter
2024-11-21 21:26 ` Martin Steigerwald
2024-11-22 21:48 ` Dan Williams
2024-11-22 22:02 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-29 9:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jan Kara
2024-08-26 8:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: drop PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 13:48 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-26 16:54 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 13:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 16:51 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 17:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 19:18 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 19:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-28 4:11 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-29 21:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-26 19:04 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-27 12:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-02 9:51 [PATCH 0/2 v2] remove PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-09-02 9:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-09-05 9:28 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-26 17:11 [PATCH 0/2 v3] remove PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-09-26 17:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
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