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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] zsmalloc: chain-length configuration should consider other metrics
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 13:10:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <itajldflunjechmdpu7aoqdgzxoegkxdvswo6csfbyr6hcbci2@jfbcmevbxoit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yr7cekjrssjiwqlkrmreugl6fhywssutjzg3ll45mcvdjklnzy@5vkgju4wwtrg>

On (26/01/05 16:01), Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 04:23:39PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > On (26/01/05 10:42), Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > > On (26/01/02 18:29), Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 01, 2026 at 10:38:14AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > > [..]
> > > > 
> > > > I worry that the heuristics are too hand-wavy
> > > 
> > > I don't disagree.  Am not super excited about the heuristics either.
> > > 
> > > > and I wonder if the memcpy savings actually show up as perf improvements
> > > > in any real life workload. Do we have data about this?
> > > 
> > > I don't have real life 16K PAGE_SIZE devices.  However, on 16K PAGE_SIZE
> > > systems we have "normal" size-classes up to a very large size, and normal
> > > class means chaining of 0-order physical pages, and chaining means spanning.
> > > So on 16K memcpy overhead is expected to be somewhat noticeable.
> > 
> > By the way, while looking at it, I think we need to "fix" obj_read_begin().
> > Currently, it uses "off + class->size" to detect spanning objects, which is
> > incorrect: size classes get merged, so a typical size class can hold a range
> > of sizes, using padding for smaller objects.  So instead of class->size we
> > need to use the actual compressed objects size, just in case if actual written
> > size was small enough to fit into the first physical page (we do that in
> > obj_write()).  I'll cook a patch.
> 
> We also need to handle zs_obj_read_end() to do the kunmap() call
> correctly.

Good catch, I realized that only after I started working on the patch.
We also need to account for inlined zs_handle.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-06  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-01  1:38 [RFC PATCH 0/2] zsmalloc: size-classes chain-length tunings Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-01  1:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] zsmalloc: drop hard limit on the number of size classes Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-01  1:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] zsmalloc: chain-length configuration should consider other metrics Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-02 18:29   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-05  1:42     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-05  7:23       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-05 16:01         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-06  4:10           ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2026-01-05 15:58       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-06  4:20         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-06  4:22           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-06  5:08             ` Herbert Xu
2026-01-06 16:24               ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-07  5:25                 ` Herbert Xu
2026-01-07  5:39                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-07  5:42                     ` Herbert Xu
2026-01-07  5:43                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-07 17:12                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-06  9:47           ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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