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From: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>
To: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz, andreyknvl@gmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 8/8] mm/slab: place slabobj_ext metadata in unused space within s->size
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 19:57:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <he2zo2ct4zkv34iiakp7zjzgdbl2n7nj3w7c3dlldvegbs6vxd@zyqrpczadamc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aV-Kn8vfyL5mnlJv@hyeyoo>

On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 07:44:47PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 05:52:27PM +0800, Hao Li wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 05:41:00PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 01:52:09PM +0800, Hao Li wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 05:02:30PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > > > > When a cache has high s->align value and s->object_size is not aligned
> > > > > to it, each object ends up with some unused space because of alignment.
> > > > > If this wasted space is big enough, we can use it to store the
> > > > > slabobj_ext metadata instead of wasting it.
> > > > 
> > > > Hi, Harry,
> > > 
> > > Hi Hao,
> > > 
> > > > When we save obj_ext in s->size space, it seems that slab_ksize() might
> > > > be missing the corresponding handling.
> > > 
> > > Oops.
> > > 
> > > > It still returns s->size, which could cause callers of slab_ksize()
> > > > to see unexpected data (i.e. obj_ext), or even overwrite the obj_ext data.
> > > 
> > > Yes indeed.
> > > Great point, thanks!
> > > 
> > > I'll fix it by checking if the slab has obj_exts within the object
> > > layout and returning s->object_size if so.
> > 
> > Makes sense - I think there's one more nuance worth capturing.
> > slab_ksize() seems to compute the maximum safe size by applying layout
> > constraints from most-restrictive to least-restrictive:
> > redzones/poison/KASAN clamp it to object_size, tail metadata
> > (SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU / SLAB_STORE_USER) clamps it to inuse, and only
> > when nothing metadata lives does it return s->size.
> 
> Waaaait, SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU isn't the only case where we put freelist
> pointer after the object.
> 
> What about caches with constructor?
> We do place it after object, but slab_ksize() may return s->size? 

That's a really good question - thanks for calling it out. I took
another look at the code, and the comment for ksize() notes that it's
only meant to be used with kmalloc()-family allocations; those objects
don't have a ctor pointer. So as long as callers stick to that contract,
I think we should be fine and don't need to worry too much about this
case.

-- 
Thanks,
Hao


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-08 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-05  8:02 [PATCH V5 0/8] mm/slab: reduce slab accounting memory overhead by allocating slabobj_ext metadata within unsed slab space Harry Yoo
2026-01-05  8:02 ` [PATCH V5 1/8] mm/slab: use unsigned long for orig_size to ensure proper metadata align Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 11:43   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08  7:12     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 11:39   ` Alexander Potapenko
2026-01-09  1:52     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-09  9:30       ` Alexander Potapenko
2026-01-05  8:02 ` [PATCH V5 2/8] mm/slab: allow specifying free pointer offset when using constructor Harry Yoo
2026-01-05  8:02 ` [PATCH V5 3/8] ext4: specify the free pointer offset for ext4_inode_cache Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 13:54   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08  7:14     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-05  8:02 ` [PATCH V5 4/8] mm/slab: abstract slabobj_ext access via new slab_obj_ext() helper Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 14:53   ` Hao Li
2026-01-08  7:21     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 14:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08  8:03     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-05  8:02 ` [PATCH V5 5/8] mm/slab: use stride to access slabobj_ext Harry Yoo
2026-01-05  8:02 ` [PATCH V5 6/8] mm/memcontrol,alloc_tag: handle slabobj_ext access under KASAN poison Harry Yoo
2026-01-05  8:02 ` [PATCH V5 7/8] mm/slab: save memory by allocating slabobj_ext array from leftover Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 17:08   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-05  8:02 ` [PATCH V5 8/8] mm/slab: place slabobj_ext metadata in unused space within s->size Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 17:33   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08  9:02     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08  5:52   ` Hao Li
2026-01-08  8:41     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08  9:52       ` Hao Li
2026-01-08 10:28         ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 10:44         ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 10:52           ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08 12:48             ` Hao Li
2026-01-09  2:32             ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-08 11:57           ` Hao Li [this message]
2026-01-05  8:05 ` [PATCH V5 0/8] mm/slab: reduce slab accounting memory overhead by allocating slabobj_ext metadata within unsed slab space Harry Yoo
2026-01-07 17:43 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-08  7:05   ` Harry Yoo

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