From: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org,
liam.howlett@oracle.com, mhocko@suse.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, oliver.sang@intel.com,
mgorman@techsingularity.net, david@redhat.com,
peterx@redhat.com, oleg@redhat.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
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hdanton@sina.com, hughd@google.com, minchan@google.com,
jannh@google.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
souravpanda@google.com, pasha.tatashin@soleen.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:53:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <hcwwxvl4bzyejjtdmrzwvwfyejzi2so2kke2b5yls3z2o67gou@67hxetrsr5ec> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <637370b8-3e3e-4457-81d6-5913a3ff1d4e@lucifer.local>
On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 02:28:16PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 11:46:32AM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > Back when per-vma locks were introduces, vm_lock was moved out of
> > vm_area_struct in [1] because of the performance regression caused by
> > false cacheline sharing. Recent investigation [2] revealed that the
> > regressions is limited to a rather old Broadwell microarchitecture and
> > even there it can be mitigated by disabling adjacent cacheline
> > prefetching, see [3].
>
> I don't see a motivating reason as to why we want to do this? We increase
> memory usage here which is not good, but later lock optimisation mitigates
> it, but why wouldn't we just do the lock optimisations and use less memory
> overall?
>
Where would you put the lock in that case though?
With the patchset it sticks with the affected vma, so no false-sharing
woes concerning other instances of the same struct.
If you make them separately allocated and packed, they false-share
between different vmas using them (in fact this is currently happening).
If you make sure to pad them, that's 64 bytes per obj, majority of which
is empty space.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-13 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-12 19:46 [PATCH v2 0/5] " Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:30 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 14:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 14:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 14:53 ` Mateusz Guzik [this message]
2024-11-13 14:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:01 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 15:42 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: mark vma as detached until it's added into vma tree Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:37 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 2:57 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 5:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2024-11-13 6:03 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 6:52 ` Hugh Dickins
2024-11-13 8:19 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 8:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 12:38 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 13:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 15:22 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 15:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 15:29 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 15:47 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 19:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-14 16:18 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-14 16:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 16:44 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-13 20:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 21:23 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] docs/mm: document latest changes to vm_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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