On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 12:47:21PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote: > It's not a functional change to the protection semantics or the > reclaim behavior. Yes, that's how I understand it, therefore I'm wondering what does it change. If this is taken: if (!mem_cgroup_usage(memcg, false)) continue; this would've been taken too: if (mem_cgroup_below_min(target_memcg, memcg)) continue; (unless target_memcg == memcg but that's not interesting for the events here) > The problem is if we go into low_reclaim and encounter an empty group, > we'll issue "low-protected group is being reclaimed" events, How can this happen when page_counter_read(&memcg->memory) <= memcg->memory.emin ? (I.e. in this case 0 <= emin and emin >= 0.) > which is kind of absurd (nothing will be reclaimed) and thus confusing > to users (I didn't even configure any protection!) Yes. > I suggested, instead of redefining the protection definitions for that > special case, to bypass all the checks and the scan count calculations > when we already know the group is empty and none of this applies. > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250404181308.GA300138@cmpxchg.org/ Is this non-functional change to make shrink_node_memcgs() robust against possible future redefinitions of mem_cgroup_below_*()? Michal