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From: Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/14] kasan: sw_tags: Use arithmetic shift for shadow computation
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 20:12:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gisttijkccu6pynsdhvv3lpyxx7bxpvqbni43ybsa5axujr7qj@7feqy5fy2kgt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uup72ceniis544hgfaojy5omctzf7gs4qlydyv2szkr5hqia32@t6fgaxcaw2oi>

On 2025-02-25 at 18:20:08 +0100, Maciej Wieczor-Retman wrote:
>On 2025-02-22 at 16:06:02 +0100, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
>>On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 2:12 PM Maciej Wieczor-Retman
>><maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Is there any reason we need this change for x86 SW_TAGS besides the
>>> >optimization benefits?
>>>
>>> I wanted to have the shadow memory boundries aligned properly, to not waste page
>>> table entries, so the memory map is more straight forward. This patch helps with
>>> that, I don't think it would have worked without it.
>>
>>Ok, I see - let's add this info into the commit message then.
>
>Sure, but if you like the 0xffeffc0000000000 offset I'll just drop this part.
>
>>
>>> >However, I just realized that this check is not entirely precise. When
>>> >doing the memory-to-shadow mapping, the memory address always has its
>>> >top byte set to 0xff: both the inlined compiler code and the outline
>>> >KASAN code do this
>>>
>>> Do you mean that non-canonical addresses passed to kasan_mem_to_shadow() will
>>> map to the same space that the canonical version would map to?
>>
>>No, but non-canonical address are never passed to
>>kasan_mem_to_shadow(): KASAN always resets the tag before calling this
>>function.
>>
>>> What does that? Does the compiler do something more than is in
>>> kasan_mem_to_shadow() when instrumenting functions?
>>
>>Same for the compiler, it always untags the pointer first [1].
>>
>>[1] https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/llvmorg-20-init/llvm/lib/Transforms/Instrumentation/HWAddressSanitizer.cpp#L922
>>
>>> >                   Thus, the possible values a shadow address can
>>> >take are the result of the memory-to-shadow mapping applied to
>>> >[0xff00000000000000, 0xffffffffffffffff], not to the whole address
>>> >space. So we can make this check more precise.
>>>
>>> In case my question above didn't lead to this: what happens to the rest of the
>>> values if they get plugged into kasan_mem_to_shadow()?
>>
>>We will get some invalid addresses. But this should never happen in
>>the first place.
>
>Thanks for letting me know about the tag resets, that should make changing the
>check in kasan_non_canonical_hook() easier.

Ah, but the [0xff00000000000000, 0xffffffffffffffff] won't be true for x86
right? Here the tag reset function only resets bits 60:57. So I presume
[0x3e00000000000000, 0xffffffffffffffff] would be the range?

-- 
Kind regards
Maciej Wieczór-Retman


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-25 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-18  8:15 [PATCH v2 00/14] kasan: x86: arm64: KASAN tag-based mode for x86 Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] kasan: sw_tags: Use arithmetic shift for shadow computation Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:29   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 13:11     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-22 15:06       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 17:20         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 19:12           ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman [this message]
2025-02-25 20:12             ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 21:38               ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 16:42                 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-26 19:44                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-27 12:27                     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-28 16:12                       ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-01  0:21                         ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-04 14:06                           ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-07  1:10                             ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-13 14:56                               ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-18 15:31                                 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 21:37           ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-27 12:33             ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-01  0:22               ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-04 12:29                 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-07  1:10                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-14 15:57                     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-18 15:32                       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] kasan: sw_tags: Check kasan_flag_enabled at runtime Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 14:35     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] kasan: sw_tags: Support outline stack tag generation Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] kasan: sw_tags: Support tag widths less than 8 bits Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] kasan: arm64: x86: Make special tags arch specific Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] x86: Add arch specific kasan functions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21  8:40     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] x86: Reset tag for virtual to physical address conversions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] x86: Physical address comparisons in fill_p*d/pte Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] mm: Pcpu chunk address tag reset Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-20 17:39   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-03-20 17:47     ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-21 10:40     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] x86: KASAN raw shadow memory PTE init Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] x86: LAM initialization Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] x86: Minimal SLAB alignment Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21  7:24     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] x86: runtime_const used for KASAN_SHADOW_END Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:31   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 15:10     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-21 15:27       ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-22 15:08         ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-22 15:07       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 17:15         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 21:37           ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 11:52             ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-26 15:24               ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 17:03                 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-21 19:20                 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-21 20:16                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-24 10:43                     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-24 10:50                       ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-24 21:58                         ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] x86: Make software tag-based kasan available Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:31   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-20 16:32     ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 14:44     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-22 15:06       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 15:39         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-20  2:49   ` kernel test robot

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