From: Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>
To: Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<llvm@lists.linux.dev>, <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
<kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 10/19] x86: LAM compatible non-canonical definition
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 08:08:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <gcpw2nrwltvgatdjcu2at6hpse42iudy5dqx7rv5m427dommwg@akooygrdmfvf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2e9ee035-9a1d-4a7b-b380-6ea1985eb7be@sifive.com>
On 2025-08-26 at 19:46:19 -0500, Samuel Holland wrote:
>Hi Maciej,
>
>On 2025-08-26 3:08 AM, Maciej Wieczor-Retman wrote:
>> On 2025-08-25 at 14:36:35 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 8/25/25 13:24, Maciej Wieczor-Retman wrote:
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * CONFIG_KASAN_SW_TAGS requires LAM which changes the canonicality checks.
>>>> + */
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_KASAN_SW_TAGS
>>>> +static __always_inline u64 __canonical_address(u64 vaddr, u8 vaddr_bits)
>>>> +{
>>>> + return (vaddr | BIT_ULL(63) | BIT_ULL(vaddr_bits - 1));
>>>> +}
>>>> +#else
>>>> static __always_inline u64 __canonical_address(u64 vaddr, u8 vaddr_bits)
>>>> {
>>>> return ((s64)vaddr << (64 - vaddr_bits)) >> (64 - vaddr_bits);
>>>> }
>>>> +#endif
>>>
>>> This is the kind of thing that's bound to break. Could we distill it
>>> down to something simpler, perhaps?
>>>
>>> In the end, the canonical enforcement mask is the thing that's changing.
>>> So perhaps it should be all common code except for the mask definition:
>>>
>>> #ifdef CONFIG_KASAN_SW_TAGS
>>> #define CANONICAL_MASK(vaddr_bits) (BIT_ULL(63) | BIT_ULL(vaddr_bits-1))
>>> #else
>>> #define CANONICAL_MASK(vaddr_bits) GENMASK_UL(63, vaddr_bits)
>>> #endif
>>>
>>> (modulo off-by-one bugs ;)
>>>
>>> Then the canonical check itself becomes something like:
>>>
>>> unsigned long cmask = CANONICAL_MASK(vaddr_bits);
>>> return (vaddr & mask) == mask;
>>>
>>> That, to me, is the most straightforward way to do it.
>>
>> Thanks, I'll try something like this. I will also have to investigate what
>> Samuel brought up that KVM possibly wants to pass user addresses to this
>> function as well.
>>
>>>
>>> I don't see it addressed in the cover letter, but what happens when a
>>> CONFIG_KASAN_SW_TAGS=y kernel is booted on non-LAM hardware?
>>
>> That's a good point, I need to add it to the cover letter. On non-LAM hardware
>> the kernel just doesn't boot. Disabling KASAN in runtime on unsupported hardware
>> isn't that difficult in outline mode, but I'm not sure it can work in inline
>> mode (where checks into shadow memory are just pasted into code by the
>> compiler).
>
>On RISC-V at least, I was able to run inline mode with missing hardware support.
>The shadow memory is still allocated, so the inline tag checks do not fault. And
>with a patch to make kasan_enabled() return false[1], all pointers remain
>canonical (they match the MatchAllTag), so the inline tag checks all succeed.
>
>[1]:
>https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20241022015913.3524425-3-samuel.holland@sifive.com/
Thanks, that should work :)
I'll test it and apply to the series.
>
>Regards,
>Samuel
>
>> Since for now there is no compiler support for the inline mode anyway, I'll try to
>> disable KASAN on non-LAM hardware in runtime.
>>
>
--
Kind regards
Maciej Wieczór-Retman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-27 6:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-25 20:24 [PATCH v5 00/19] kasan: x86: arm64: KASAN tag-based mode for x86 Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 01/19] kasan: sw_tags: Use arithmetic shift for shadow computation Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-26 19:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-27 6:26 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 02/19] kasan: sw_tags: Support tag widths less than 8 bits Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 03/19] kasan: Fix inline mode for x86 tag-based mode Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:17 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 04/19] x86: Add arch specific kasan functions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:17 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 9:06 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-18 15:52 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-09-19 11:05 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 05/19] kasan: arm64: x86: Make special tags arch specific Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:18 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 10:12 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 06/19] x86: Reset tag for virtual to physical address conversions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 07/19] mm: x86: Untag addresses in EXECMEM_ROX related pointer arithmetic Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-28 9:50 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-28 16:22 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 08/19] x86: Physical address comparisons in fill_p*d/pte Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 09/19] x86: KASAN raw shadow memory PTE init Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 10/19] x86: LAM compatible non-canonical definition Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:59 ` Samuel Holland
2025-08-27 6:32 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 21:36 ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-26 8:08 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-27 0:46 ` Samuel Holland
2025-08-27 6:08 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman [this message]
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 11/19] x86: LAM initialization Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 22:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-08 8:30 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 12/19] x86: Minimal SLAB alignment Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:18 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 13/19] kasan: x86: Handle int3 for inline KASAN reports Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 10:38 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 12:54 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 13:08 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 20:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-09 8:24 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09 8:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-09 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-09 8:49 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09 9:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-10 8:23 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09 8:53 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09 14:46 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 14/19] arm64: Unify software tag-based KASAN inline recovery path Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-26 19:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 15/19] kasan: x86: Apply multishot to the inline report handler Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 13:02 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 20:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-09 8:42 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-09 14:45 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-09 14:46 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 16/19] kasan: x86: Logical bit shift for kasan_mem_to_shadow Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 17/19] mm: Unpoison pcpu chunks with base address tag Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-13 8:29 ` Baoquan He
2025-09-15 6:29 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 18/19] mm: Unpoison vms[area] addresses with a common tag Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 13:11 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-08 20:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-09 8:26 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-08-25 20:24 ` [PATCH v5 19/19] x86: Make software tag-based kasan available Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-09-06 17:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-09-08 14:11 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
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