From: Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>
To: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/14] x86: runtime_const used for KASAN_SHADOW_END
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 16:27:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ffbyaler57cdwgs5axtdpnwg52jtwx7tx2rykjro755c45mihl@czmbriuhg3to> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lcbigfjrgkckybimqx6cjoogon7nwyztv2tbet62wxbkm7hsyr@nyssicid3kwb>
On 2025-02-21 at 16:10:54 +0100, Maciej Wieczor-Retman wrote:
>On 2025-02-20 at 00:31:08 +0100, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
>>On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:20 AM Maciej Wieczor-Retman
>><maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On x86, generic KASAN is setup in a way that needs a single
>>> KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET value for both 4 and 5 level paging. It's required
>>> to facilitate boot time switching and it's a compiler ABI so it can't be
>>> changed during runtime.
>>>
>>> Software tag-based mode doesn't tie shadow start and end to any linear
>>> addresses as part of the compiler ABI so it can be changed during
>>> runtime.
>>
>>KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET is passed to the compiler via
>>hwasan-mapping-offset, see scripts/Makefile.kasan (for the INLINE
>>mode). So while we can change its value, it has to be known at compile
>>time. So I don't think using a runtime constant would work.
>
>I don't know about arm64, but this doesn't seem to work right now on x86. I
>think I recall that hwasan-mapping-offset isn't implemented on the x86 LLVM or
>something like that? I'm sure I saw some note about it a while ago on the
>internet but I couldn't find it today.
>
>Anyway if KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET is not set at compile time it defaults to nothing
>and just doesn't get passed into kasan-params a few lines below. I assume that
>result seems a little too makeshift for runtime const to make sense here?
>
>>
>>Which means that KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET has to have such a value that
>>works for both 4 and 5 level page tables. This possibly means we might
>>need something different than the first patch in this series.
>
>I'll think again about doing one offset for both paging levels so that it's as
>optimal as possible.
>
Also I was wondering if you know what "hwasan-mapping-offset-dynamic" option is?
I noticed it in the llvm docs but can't find a good description what it does,
even from looking at the code in HWAddressSanitizer.cpp. If
hwasan-mapping-offset is not implemeneted for x86 I doubt this is but maybe it
could help in a cleaner makefile for x86 at least? Especially once these options
will be working in x86 llvm.
--
Kind regards
Maciej Wieczór-Retman
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-18 8:15 [PATCH v2 00/14] kasan: x86: arm64: KASAN tag-based mode for x86 Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] kasan: sw_tags: Use arithmetic shift for shadow computation Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:29 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 13:11 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-22 15:06 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 17:20 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 19:12 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 20:12 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 21:38 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 16:42 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-26 19:44 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-27 12:27 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-28 16:12 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-01 0:21 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-04 14:06 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-07 1:10 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-13 14:56 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-18 15:31 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 21:37 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-27 12:33 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-01 0:22 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-04 12:29 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-07 1:10 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-14 15:57 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-18 15:32 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] kasan: sw_tags: Check kasan_flag_enabled at runtime Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 14:35 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] kasan: sw_tags: Support outline stack tag generation Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] kasan: sw_tags: Support tag widths less than 8 bits Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] kasan: arm64: x86: Make special tags arch specific Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] x86: Add arch specific kasan functions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 8:40 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] x86: Reset tag for virtual to physical address conversions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] x86: Physical address comparisons in fill_p*d/pte Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] mm: Pcpu chunk address tag reset Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-20 17:39 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-03-20 17:47 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-21 10:40 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] x86: KASAN raw shadow memory PTE init Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] x86: LAM initialization Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] x86: Minimal SLAB alignment Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 7:24 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] x86: runtime_const used for KASAN_SHADOW_END Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:31 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 15:10 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-21 15:27 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman [this message]
2025-02-22 15:08 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-22 15:07 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 17:15 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 21:37 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 11:52 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-26 15:24 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 17:03 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-21 19:20 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-21 20:16 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-24 10:43 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-24 10:50 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-24 21:58 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18 8:15 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] x86: Make software tag-based kasan available Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:31 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-20 16:32 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 14:44 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-22 15:06 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 15:39 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-20 2:49 ` kernel test robot
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