From: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
Naveen N Rao <naveen@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] powerpc: Implement masked user access
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 07:27:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff2662ca-3b86-425b-97f8-3883f1018e83@csgroup.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250622172043.3fb0e54c@pumpkin>
Le 22/06/2025 à 18:20, David Laight a écrit :
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 11:52:38 +0200
> Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu> wrote:
>
>> Masked user access avoids the address/size verification by access_ok().
>> Allthough its main purpose is to skip the speculation in the
>> verification of user address and size hence avoid the need of spec
>> mitigation, it also has the advantage to reduce the amount of
>> instructions needed so it also benefits to platforms that don't
>> need speculation mitigation, especially when the size of the copy is
>> not know at build time.
>
> It also removes a conditional branch that is quite likely to be
> statically predicted 'the wrong way'.
But include/asm-generic/access_ok.h defines access_ok() as:
#define access_ok(addr, size) likely(__access_ok(addr, size))
So GCC uses the 'unlikely' variant of the branch instruction to force
the correct prediction, doesn't it ?
>
>> Unlike x86_64 which masks the address to 'all bits set' when the
>> user address is invalid, here the address is set to an address in
>> the gap. It avoids relying on the zero page to catch offseted
>> accesses. On book3s/32 it makes sure the opening remains on user
>> segment. The overcost is a single instruction in the masking.
>
> That isn't true (any more).
> Linus changed the check to (approx):
> if (uaddr > TASK_SIZE)
> uaddr = TASK_SIZE;
> (Implemented with a conditional move)
Ah ok, I overlooked that, I didn't know the cmove instruction, seem
similar to the isel instruction on powerpc e500.
Christophe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-24 5:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-22 9:52 Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 9:52 ` [PATCH 1/5] uaccess: Add masked_user_{read/write}_access_begin Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 16:35 ` David Laight
2025-06-24 5:34 ` Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 9:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] uaccess: Add speculation barrier to copy_from_user_iter() Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 16:52 ` David Laight
2025-06-22 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-22 20:18 ` David Laight
2025-06-24 5:49 ` Christophe Leroy
2025-06-24 8:07 ` David Laight
2025-06-24 15:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-22 9:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] powerpc: Remove unused size parametre to KUAP enabling/disabling functions Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 9:52 ` [PATCH 4/5] powerpc: Move barrier_nospec() out of allow_read_{from/write}_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 9:52 ` [PATCH 5/5] powerpc: Implement masked user access Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 17:13 ` David Laight
2025-06-22 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-22 19:51 ` David Laight
2025-06-22 18:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-22 16:20 ` [PATCH 0/5] " David Laight
2025-06-24 5:27 ` Christophe Leroy [this message]
2025-06-24 8:32 ` David Laight
2025-06-24 21:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-25 8:30 ` David Laight
2025-06-24 13:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-24 16:50 ` David Laight
2025-06-24 18:25 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-24 21:08 ` David Laight
2025-06-26 5:56 ` Christophe Leroy
2025-06-26 22:01 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-07-05 10:55 ` Christophe Leroy
2025-07-05 11:42 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-07-05 18:33 ` David Laight
2025-07-05 20:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-07-05 21:05 ` David Laight
2025-07-05 21:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-26 21:39 ` Segher Boessenkool
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