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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings by default
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2023 00:26:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff1bb8cd-896f-4c7f-a182-42112f5ac5af@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZEcN92iJoe+3ANVc@nvidia.com>

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 08:17:11PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:03:34AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>
> > Except you dirty a page that is mapped elsewhere that thought everything
> > was cleaned and... not sure the PTLs really help you much?
>
> If we have a writable PTE then while the PTE's PTL is held it is impossible
> for a FS to make the page clean as any cleaning action has to also
> take the PTL to make the PTE non-present or non-writable.
>

That's a very good point! Passing things back with a spinlock held feels
pretty icky though, and obviously a no-go for a FOLL_PIN. Perhaps for a
FOLL_GET this would be workable.

> > If we want to be more adventerous the opt-in variant could default to on
> > for FOLL_LONGTERM too, but that discussion can be had over on that patch
> > series.
>
> I think you should at least do this too to explain why io_uring code
> is moving into common code..
>

OK, I'll respin this as a v3 of this series then since we'll be defaulting
FOLL_LONGTERM at least (for which there seems to be broad consensus), but
also permit this flag to be set manually and set it for io_uring.

> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-24 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-24  7:43 Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-24  9:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-24 10:17   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-24 12:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-24 12:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-24 13:26         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-24 12:38       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-24 13:39         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-24 14:29           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-24 17:36             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-24 18:22               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-24 18:54                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-24 19:18                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-24 22:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-24 23:03                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-24 23:17                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-24 23:26                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2023-04-24 23:30                             ` Jason Gunthorpe

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