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From: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
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	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] binfmt_flat: Remove shared library support
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 08:00:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff01a3d8-3248-b0cb-2276-6438b995dfea@opensource.wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220420202321.GD7074@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On 4/21/22 05:23, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:04:32PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:47 PM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, I was trying to understand why systems were using binfmt_flat and
>>> not binfmt_elf, given the mention of elf2flat -- is there really such a
>>> large kernel memory footprint savings to be had from removing
>>> binfmt_elf?
>>
>> I think the main reason for using flat binaries is nommu support on
>> m68k, xtensa and risc-v. The regular binfmt_elf support requires
>> an MMU, and the elf-fdpic variant is only available for arm and sh
>> at this point (the other nommu architectures got removed over time).
> 
> I believe I made the elf-fdpic loader so that it's capable of loading
> normal non-fdpic elf files on nommu (1bde925d23), unless somebody
> broke that. I also seem to recall that capability being added to the
> main elf loader later.

Last time I checked, building shared libraries usable with nommu riscv
required gcc/ld options that were not supported for riscv (PIE related
stuff). So removing the kernel support for shared flat libs is fine with me.


-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-20 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-14  9:10 [PATCH v2] binfmt_flat: do not stop relocating GOT entries prematurely on riscv Niklas Cassel
2022-04-14 23:05 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-15  1:24   ` Niklas Cassel
2022-04-14 23:27 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-14 23:41   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-15  1:26   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2022-04-16  0:14     ` Kees Cook
2022-04-14 23:51 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-15  0:30   ` Niklas Cassel
2022-04-15  0:56     ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-15  1:08       ` Niklas Cassel
2022-04-15  1:13         ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-15  2:11           ` Niklas Cassel
2022-04-15  2:14             ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-20  4:04     ` Greg Ungerer
2022-04-20 14:58       ` [PATCH] binfmt_flat: Remove shared library support Eric W. Biederman
2022-04-20 16:17         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-04-20 16:59           ` Rich Felker
2022-04-20 17:47             ` Kees Cook
2022-04-20 20:04               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-20 20:23                 ` Rich Felker
2022-04-20 23:00                   ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2022-04-25  3:38               ` Rob Landley
2022-04-25  7:40                 ` Greg Ungerer
2022-04-20 23:36         ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-20 23:53         ` Greg Ungerer
2022-04-21  6:52           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-21  7:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-22 10:26               ` Vladimir Murzin
2022-04-22 15:18               ` Patrice CHOTARD
2022-04-21 12:43             ` Rich Felker
2022-04-25  3:50               ` Rob Landley
2022-04-21  0:05         ` (subset) " Kees Cook
2022-04-16  4:25 ` [PATCH v2] binfmt_flat: do not stop relocating GOT entries prematurely on riscv Kees Cook

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