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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok_raj@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Taras Madan <tarasmadan@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 07:18:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd1f54b5-010d-da65-3989-d8cf727261c7@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yy2cfppqkf85hPT7@nvidia.com>

On 9/23/22 04:46, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:38:26PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>>> So I would assume an untagged pointer should just be fine for the IOMMU
>>> to walk. IOMMU currently wants canonical addresses for VA.
>> Right. But it means that LAM compatibility can be block on two layers:
>> IOMMU and device. IOMMU is not the only HW entity that has to be aware of
>> tagged pointers.
> Why does a device need to care about this? What do you imagine a
> device doing with it?
> 
> The userspace should program the device with the tagged address, the
> device should present the tagged address on the bus, the IOMMU should
> translate the tagged address the same as the CPU by ignoring the upper
> bits.

Is this how *every* access works?  Every single device access to the
address space goes through the IOMMU?

I thought devices also cached address translation responses from the
IOMMU and stashed them in their own device-local TLB.  If the device is
unaware of the tags, then how does device TLB invalidation work?  Would
all device TLB flushes be full flushes of the devices TLB?  If something
tried to use single-address invalidation, it would need to invalidate
every possible tag alias because the device wouldn't know that the tags
*are* tags instead of actual virtual addresses.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-23 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-30  1:00 Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 01/11] x86/mm: Fix CR3_ADDR_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 02/11] x86: CPUID and CR3/CR4 flags for Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 03/11] mm: Pass down mm_struct to untagged_addr() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 04/11] x86/mm: Handle LAM on context switch Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 05/11] x86/uaccess: Provide untagged_addr() and remove tags before address check Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 06/11] x86/mm: Provide arch_prctl() interface for LAM Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 07/11] x86: Expose untagging mask in /proc/$PID/arch_status Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 08/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add malloc and tag-bits test cases for linear-address masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 09/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add mmap and SYSCALL " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-07  3:19   ` Robert Hoo
2022-09-09 11:24     ` Zhang, Weihong
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 10/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add io_uring " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 11/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add inherit " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-01 17:45 ` [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling Ashok Raj
2022-09-04  0:39   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-09 16:08     ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 20:39       ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-12 21:41         ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-12 22:55           ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-13  0:06             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  0:23           ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 22:49     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  0:08       ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-13  0:18         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 14:45       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:11         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:18           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:31             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:45               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 23:51                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-15  9:01                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-15 17:28                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-20 13:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 14:57                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-20 16:06                         ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-20 16:27                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 18:41                             ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-20 18:50                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 20:44                                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-21  0:01                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21  9:36                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 16:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:08                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 17:11                           ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:29                             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 18:11                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23  0:42                               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23  5:27                                 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23  9:38                                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23 11:46                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:18                                       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2022-09-23 14:42                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:59                                           ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:28                                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:31                                           ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 15:44                                             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 16:23                                               ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 16:44                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-04  1:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05  5:05   ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-05 13:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 14:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 15:35         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 15:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 16:47             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-06  8:39               ` Peter Zijlstra

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