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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: hugetlb: Add Kconfig option to set default nr_overcommit_hugepages
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:12:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd1c3a84-d3e6-906f-57b0-25eae0933b68@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71834e10-098c-7d15-b9d4-36d33a57499c@google.com>

On 11.06.23 07:20, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023, Josh Triplett wrote:
> 
>> The default kernel configuration does not allow any huge page allocation
>> until after setting nr_hugepages or nr_overcommit_hugepages to a
>> non-zero value; without setting those, mmap attempts with MAP_HUGETLB
>> will always fail with -ENOMEM. nr_overcommit_hugepages allows userspace
>> to attempt to allocate huge pages at runtime, succeeding if the kernel
>> can find or assemble a free huge page.
>>
>> Provide a Kconfig option to make nr_overcommit_hugepages default to
>> unlimited, which permits userspace to always attempt huge page
>> allocation on a best-effort basis. This makes it easier and more
>> worthwhile for random applications and libraries to opportunistically
>> attempt MAP_HUGETLB allocations without special configuration.
>>
>> In particular, current versions of liburing with IORING_SETUP_NO_MMAP
>> attempt to allocate the rings in a huge page. This seems likely to lead
>> to more applications and libraries attempting to use huge pages.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
> 
> Why not do this in an initscript?
> 
> Or, if absolutely necessary, a kernel command line parameter?
> 
> A Kconfig option to set a default value to be ULONG_MAX seems strange if
> you can just write the value to procfs.
> 

Agreed, not to mention that huge pages in some environment can cause 
trouble (some architectures -- or with gigantic huge pages --  don't 
support huge page migration and you can run into trouble with 
ZONE_MOVABLE or MIGRATE_CMA, because you'll end up "consuming" all 
memory for unmovable allocations in the system), and we shouldn't 
advocate the use of unlimited overcommit for huge pages ...

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-12  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-10  1:21 Josh Triplett
2023-06-11  5:20 ` David Rientjes
2023-06-12  9:12   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-06-12 16:42     ` Mike Kravetz

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