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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Vijayanand Jitta <vjitta@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] kmalloc-reclaimable caches
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 10:15:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fcdcf7be-afd1-9747-d97e-51cd071d3f5c@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180524153225.GA7329@cmpxchg.org>

On 05/24/2018 05:32 PM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 01:00:06PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> - the vmstat/meminfo counter name is rather general and might suggest it also
>>   includes reclaimable page caches, which it doesn't
>>
>> Suggestions welcome for all three points. For the last one, we might also keep
>> the counter separate from nr_slab_reclaimable, not superset. I did a superset
>> as IIRC somebody suggested that in the older threads or at LSF.
> 
> Yeah, the "reclaimable" name is too generic. How about KReclaimable?
> 
> The counter being a superset sounds good to me. We use this info for
> both load balancing and manual debugging. For load balancing code it's
> nice not having to worry about finding all the counters that hold
> reclaimable memory depending on kernel version; it's always simply
> user cache + user anon + kernel reclaimable. And for debugging, we can
> always add more specific subset counters later on if we need them.

Hm, Christoph in his reply to patch 4/5 expressed a different opinion.
It's true that updating two counters has extra overhead, especially if
there are two separate critical sections:

mod_lruvec_page_state(page, NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE, nr_pages);
mod_node_page_state(page_pgdat(page), NR_RECLAIMABLE, nr_pages);

The first disables irq for CONFIG_MEMCG or defers to
mod_node_page_state() otherwise.
mod_node_page_state() is different depending on CONFIG_SMP and
CONFIG_HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL.

I don't see an easy way to make this optimal? Different counter would be
indeed simpler. /proc/vmstat would then print separate counters, but we
could have both separate and summary counter in /proc/meminfo. Would
that be enough?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-28 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-24 11:00 Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 11:00 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm, slab/slub: introduce " Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-25 15:51   ` Christopher Lameter
2018-05-28  8:03     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 11:00 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm, slab: allocate off-slab freelists as reclaimable when appropriate Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 11:00 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] dcache: allocate external names from reclaimable kmalloc caches Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 11:00 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mm: rename and change semantics of nr_indirectly_reclaimable_bytes Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-25 15:59   ` Christopher Lameter
2018-05-24 11:00 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm, proc: add NR_RECLAIMABLE to /proc/meminfo Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 11:43 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] kmalloc-reclaimable caches Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-24 16:18   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-24 18:40     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-24 18:48       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-24 12:13 ` Roman Gushchin
2018-05-24 15:52   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 17:35     ` Laura Abbott
2018-05-24 15:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2018-05-28  8:15   ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2018-05-29 17:58     ` Johannes Weiner

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