From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
Nicolas Geoffray <ngeoffray@google.com>,
Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>, Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] anon_vma root lock contention and per anon_vma lock
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 10:14:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc37efe2-53a2-483b-8c59-bccafae81d97@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4x=YsQR=nNcHA-q=0vg0b7ok=81C_qQqKmoJ+BZ+HVduQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 11.09.25 09:17, Barry Song wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I’m aware that Lokesh started a discussion on the concurrency issue
> between usefaultfd_move and memory reclamation [1]. However, my
> concern is different, so I’m starting a separate discussion.
>
> In the process tree, many processes may share anon_vma->root, even if
> they don’t share the anon_vma itself. This causes serious lock contention
> between memory reclamation (which calls folio_referenced and try_to_unmap)
> and other processes calling fork(), exit(), mprotect(), etc.
>
> On Android, this issue becomes more severe since many processes are
> descendants of zygote.
>
> Memory reclamation path:
> folio_lock_anon_vma_read
>
> mprotect path:
> mprotect
> split_vma
> anon_vma_clone
>
> fork / copy_process path:
> copy_process
> dup_mmap
> anon_vma_fork
>
> exit path:
> exit_mmap
> free_pgtables
> unlink_anon_vmas
>
> To be honest, memory reclamation—especially folio_referenced()—is a
> problem. It is called very frequently and can block other important
> user threads waiting for the anon_vma root lock, causing UI lag.
>
> I have a rough idea: since the vast majority of anon folios are actually
> exclusive (I observed almost 98% of Android anon folios fall into this
> category), they don’t need to iterate the anon_vma tree. They belong to
> a single process, and even for rmap, it is per-process.
>
> I propose introducing a per-anon_vma lock. For exclusive folios whose
> anon_vma is not shared, we could use this per-anon_vma lock.
> folio_referenced declares that it will begin reading, and Lokesh’s
> folio_lock may also help maintain folios as exclusive, so I am
> somewhat in favor of his RFC. Any thread writing to such an anon_vma
> would take the per-vma write lock, and possibly also the anon_vma
> root write lock. If folio_referenced fails to declare the per-vma lock,
> it can fall back to the global anon_vma->root read mutex, similar to
> mmap_lock.
To summarize, are you proposing a similar locking scheme like we have
for mm vs. vma here for anon-vma root vs. anon-vma?
--
Cheers
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-11 8:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-11 7:17 Barry Song
2025-09-11 8:14 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-11 8:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11 9:18 ` Barry Song
2025-09-11 10:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11 8:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11 18:22 ` Jann Horn
2025-09-12 4:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 11:37 ` Jann Horn
2025-09-12 11:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-14 23:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-15 0:23 ` Barry Song
2025-09-15 1:47 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-15 8:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 2:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-15 5:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 9:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 9:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 8:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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