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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Nicolas Geoffray <ngeoffray@google.com>,
	Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>, Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] anon_vma root lock contention and per anon_vma lock
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 10:14:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc37efe2-53a2-483b-8c59-bccafae81d97@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4x=YsQR=nNcHA-q=0vg0b7ok=81C_qQqKmoJ+BZ+HVduQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 11.09.25 09:17, Barry Song wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I’m aware that Lokesh started a discussion on the concurrency issue
> between usefaultfd_move and memory reclamation [1]. However, my
> concern is different, so I’m starting a separate discussion.
> 
> In the process tree, many processes may share anon_vma->root, even if
> they don’t share the anon_vma itself. This causes serious lock contention
> between memory reclamation (which calls folio_referenced and try_to_unmap)
> and other processes calling fork(), exit(), mprotect(), etc.
> 
> On Android, this issue becomes more severe since many processes are
> descendants of zygote.
> 
> Memory reclamation path:
>    folio_lock_anon_vma_read
> 
> mprotect path:
>    mprotect
>      split_vma
>        anon_vma_clone
> 
> fork / copy_process path:
>    copy_process
>      dup_mmap
>        anon_vma_fork
> 
> exit path:
>    exit_mmap
>      free_pgtables
>        unlink_anon_vmas
> 
> To be honest, memory reclamation—especially folio_referenced()—is a
> problem. It is called very frequently and can block other important
> user threads waiting for the anon_vma root lock, causing UI lag.
> 
> I have a rough idea: since the vast majority of anon folios are actually
> exclusive (I observed almost 98% of Android anon folios fall into this
> category), they don’t need to iterate the anon_vma tree. They belong to
> a single process, and even for rmap, it is per-process.
> 
> I propose introducing a per-anon_vma lock. For exclusive folios whose
> anon_vma is not shared, we could use this per-anon_vma lock.
> folio_referenced declares that it will begin reading, and Lokesh’s
> folio_lock may also help maintain folios as exclusive, so I am
> somewhat in favor of his RFC. Any thread writing to such an anon_vma
> would take the per-vma write lock, and possibly also the anon_vma
> root write lock. If folio_referenced fails to declare the per-vma lock,
> it can fall back to the global anon_vma->root read mutex, similar to
> mmap_lock.

To summarize, are you proposing a similar locking scheme like we have 
for mm vs. vma here for anon-vma root vs. anon-vma?

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-11  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-11  7:17 Barry Song
2025-09-11  8:14 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-11  8:34   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11  9:18   ` Barry Song
2025-09-11 10:47     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11  8:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11 18:22   ` Jann Horn
2025-09-12  4:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 11:37       ` Jann Horn
2025-09-12 11:56         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-14 23:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-15  0:23   ` Barry Song
2025-09-15  1:47     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-15  8:41       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15  2:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-15  5:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15  9:42         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:29           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:56             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15  9:22       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:41         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:51           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15  8:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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