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From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Oleksandr Andrushchenko <oleksandr_andrushchenko@epam.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Yan Yankovskyi <yyankovskyi@gmail.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] xen: add helpers to allocate unpopulated memory
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:54:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc10d3a5-fe79-335e-353a-1bf480af7c7c@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200814124724.GK975@Air-de-Roger>

On 14.08.20 14:47, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:27:32PM +0200, Jürgen Groß wrote:
>> On 14.08.20 11:56, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 08:29:20AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:54:20AM +0200, Roger Pau Monn?? wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 08:33:37AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 11:44:47AM +0200, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
>>>>>>> If enabled (because ZONE_DEVICE is supported) the usage of the new
>>>>>>> functionality untangles Xen balloon and RAM hotplug from the usage of
>>>>>>> unpopulated physical memory ranges to map foreign pages, which is the
>>>>>>> correct thing to do in order to avoid mappings of foreign pages depend
>>>>>>> on memory hotplug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So please just select ZONE_DEVICE if this is so much better rather
>>>>>> than maintaining two variants.
>>>>>
>>>>> We still need to other variant for Arm at least, so both need to be
>>>>> maintained anyway, even if we force ZONE_DEVICE on x86.
>>>>
>>>> Well, it still really helps reproducability if you stick to one
>>>> implementation of x86.
>>>>
>>>> The alternative would be an explicit config option to opt into it,
>>>> but just getting a different implementation based on a random
>>>> kernel option is strange.
>>>
>>> Would adding something like the chunk below to the patch be OK?
>>>
>>> ---8<---
>>> diff --git a/drivers/xen/Kconfig b/drivers/xen/Kconfig
>>> index 018020b91baa..5f321a1319e6 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/xen/Kconfig
>>> +++ b/drivers/xen/Kconfig
>>> @@ -328,7 +328,14 @@ config XEN_FRONT_PGDIR_SHBUF
>>>    	tristate
>>>    config XEN_UNPOPULATED_ALLOC
>>> -	bool
>>> -	default y if ZONE_DEVICE && !ARM && !ARM64
>>> +	bool "Use unpopulated memory ranges for guest mappings"
>>> +	depends on X86
>>> +	select ZONE_DEVICE
>>> +	default y
>>
>> I'd rather use "default XEN_BACKEND" here, as mappings of other guest's
>> memory is rarely used for non-backend guests.
> 
> There's also the privcmd and gnt devices which make heavy use of this,
> so I'm not sure only selecting by default on XEN_BACKEND is the best
> option.

I just want to avoid that kernels built for running as Xen guest, but
not as dom0, will be forced to select ZONE_DEVICE.

As privcmd is dom0-only, this is no problem.

In case you are worrying about gnt devices, I'd be fine to switch to

default XEN_BACKEND || XEN_GNTDEV


Juergen



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-14 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200811094447.31208-1-roger.pau@citrix.com>
2020-08-11  9:44 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] memremap: rename MEMORY_DEVICE_DEVDAX to MEMORY_DEVICE_GENERIC Roger Pau Monne
2020-08-11 21:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-20 11:37     ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-08-31 10:19       ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-08-31 20:56         ` Ira Weiny
2020-08-31 19:20   ` Andrew Morton
2020-08-11  9:44 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] xen: add helpers to allocate unpopulated memory Roger Pau Monne
2020-08-12  7:28   ` Jürgen Groß
2020-08-12  7:38     ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-08-13  7:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-13  7:54     ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-08-13  9:49       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-08-13 10:02         ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-08-14  7:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-14  9:56         ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-08-14 10:27           ` Jürgen Groß
2020-08-14 12:47             ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-08-14 12:54               ` Jürgen Groß [this message]
2020-08-14 13:35                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-08-14 13:52                   ` Jürgen Groß

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